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Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)
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<blockquote data-quote="Aurondarklord" data-source="post: 6057319" data-attributes="member: 6667464"><p>I think they are writing with the assumption that players will be working on the baseline that modern American law and sensibilities represents "lawful good", because that's the values of the majority of their audience, and in most states, prostitution is illegal and held as a bad thing.</p><p></p><p>But in only a few cases do they make an explicit point of saying that something is wrong as a moral absolute, regardless of circumstances. For example, torture, they make very clear that torture is always an evil act, no matter who you're doing it to or why.</p><p></p><p>In other cases, they present a generalization, such as "poison is bad", and then go out of their way to point out the exceptions, like drow knockout poison and ravages, and explain the reasoning for why other poisons are bad.</p><p></p><p>In the case of prostitution, they don't go into this kind of detail, because as Jackinthegreen pointed out, they don't want an outcry, this is after all D&D, one of the most commonly and unfairly vilified games ever made, and they don't want to stir that pot by wading into a long discussion on unconventional sexual practices. But they do explain prostitution as evil for a reason, not evil as an absolute like torture, which IMPLIES that if that reason no longer applied, prostitution would not necessarily still be considered evil.</p><p></p><p>And S'mon, I would suggest you read at least the first post of the thread in full, not just the title. Shilsen explicitly goes on to ask if, beyond whether each individual poster would allow Cedric, if Cedric is or is not legal under 3.0/3.5 RAW, and that IS very much a question about the letter of the rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aurondarklord, post: 6057319, member: 6667464"] I think they are writing with the assumption that players will be working on the baseline that modern American law and sensibilities represents "lawful good", because that's the values of the majority of their audience, and in most states, prostitution is illegal and held as a bad thing. But in only a few cases do they make an explicit point of saying that something is wrong as a moral absolute, regardless of circumstances. For example, torture, they make very clear that torture is always an evil act, no matter who you're doing it to or why. In other cases, they present a generalization, such as "poison is bad", and then go out of their way to point out the exceptions, like drow knockout poison and ravages, and explain the reasoning for why other poisons are bad. In the case of prostitution, they don't go into this kind of detail, because as Jackinthegreen pointed out, they don't want an outcry, this is after all D&D, one of the most commonly and unfairly vilified games ever made, and they don't want to stir that pot by wading into a long discussion on unconventional sexual practices. But they do explain prostitution as evil for a reason, not evil as an absolute like torture, which IMPLIES that if that reason no longer applied, prostitution would not necessarily still be considered evil. And S'mon, I would suggest you read at least the first post of the thread in full, not just the title. Shilsen explicitly goes on to ask if, beyond whether each individual poster would allow Cedric, if Cedric is or is not legal under 3.0/3.5 RAW, and that IS very much a question about the letter of the rules. [/QUOTE]
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