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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 5199200" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>As far as boardgames go, that's not a bad price. You will probably be able to pick it up for $40-50 online. I think that's fair.</p><p></p><p><em>War of the Ring</em> was a $60-75 game. Admittedly more plastic, but repetitive sculpts. (Great game though)</p><p></p><p>Looking at <em>Battlelore</em>, the Days of Wonder version had a lot of smaller scale minis - but there so many that FFG can't even make the game in smaller numbers now for a retial cost of less than $150. Hence, their rebranding the game with a whole new theme and full production run as <em>Battles of Westeros.</em></p><p></p><p>I don't think it's fair to judge the "value" in this boardgame as a game to just borg for parts for use in RPG play. Now - it's totally reasonable to do so if that's your only purpose in buying it -- not arguing that -- but subjective value for RPG use and objective value as a boardgame are two different things.</p><p></p><p>Objectively assessed by the standards of the marketplace the game is aimed at, it seems to have more than enough chrome to justify the price tag, imo.</p><p></p><p>Whether it's a good game or not? That remains to be seen.</p><p></p><p>Love or hate 4E, Mike Mearls is an talented game designer who had demonstrated skill at developing clever and elegant game mechanics. (The issue of whether you approve of the intention of the design of 4E or not is a completely separate argument.) So I'm hopeful, especially as he is such a fan of <em>Arkham Horror</em>, which is one of my favorite games. (You can even play <em>Arkham Horror</em> solo)</p><p></p><p>FWIW though, the admittedly heavily Eurogame biased BGG seems not terribly interested in <em>Ravenloft</em> or this game at this juncture. That isn't necessarily a big deal right now and matters may prove otherwise on the game's release, Nevertheless, it does speak to the anti-D&D bias that a lot of the people on BGG have (I'm not saying it's a rational bias -- simply that it is there). Hence, my concern over the HUGE decision to D&D brand the game in the manner that they have.</p><p></p><p>Did you ever give <em>Tide of Iron</em> a try Mark?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 5199200, member: 20741"] As far as boardgames go, that's not a bad price. You will probably be able to pick it up for $40-50 online. I think that's fair. [I]War of the Ring[/I] was a $60-75 game. Admittedly more plastic, but repetitive sculpts. (Great game though) Looking at [I]Battlelore[/I], the Days of Wonder version had a lot of smaller scale minis - but there so many that FFG can't even make the game in smaller numbers now for a retial cost of less than $150. Hence, their rebranding the game with a whole new theme and full production run as [I]Battles of Westeros.[/I] I don't think it's fair to judge the "value" in this boardgame as a game to just borg for parts for use in RPG play. Now - it's totally reasonable to do so if that's your only purpose in buying it -- not arguing that -- but subjective value for RPG use and objective value as a boardgame are two different things. Objectively assessed by the standards of the marketplace the game is aimed at, it seems to have more than enough chrome to justify the price tag, imo. Whether it's a good game or not? That remains to be seen. Love or hate 4E, Mike Mearls is an talented game designer who had demonstrated skill at developing clever and elegant game mechanics. (The issue of whether you approve of the intention of the design of 4E or not is a completely separate argument.) So I'm hopeful, especially as he is such a fan of [I]Arkham Horror[/I], which is one of my favorite games. (You can even play [I]Arkham Horror[/I] solo) FWIW though, the admittedly heavily Eurogame biased BGG seems not terribly interested in [I]Ravenloft[/I] or this game at this juncture. That isn't necessarily a big deal right now and matters may prove otherwise on the game's release, Nevertheless, it does speak to the anti-D&D bias that a lot of the people on BGG have (I'm not saying it's a rational bias -- simply that it is there). Hence, my concern over the HUGE decision to D&D brand the game in the manner that they have. Did you ever give [I]Tide of Iron[/I] a try Mark? [/QUOTE]
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