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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7146224" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>I think you may be misremembering. Gygax got canned in 1985, long before 2e came out, so I highly doubt any arguments about going to 2e were centered around that. Also, I just went through 2 years of Dragon at the time 2e came out. Do you know how many letters to the editor were critical of 2e?</p><p></p><p>2. One was from someone who was complaining how 2e was sending a message that evil PCs were being removed, and the other was complaining about a line of text that said, "Your PC knows everything you know", because apparently he is "a 15 year old with 4 years of martial arts so giving my PC my knowledge would unbalance the game."</p><p></p><p>Almost all other references to 2e were complimentary (like the monstrous manual having loose leaf sheets), or asking questions.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, if only a % of gamers hang out on forums now, almost none of them did back on Usenet from a ratio perspective. Hardly anyone had a computer period in 1989, let alone the number who had access to a computer with connectivity to other uses. I'm guessing less than 5% of people had that. So saying there was an edition war based on such a tiny sample size is flawed methodology.</p><p></p><p>I know my experience is purely anecdotal (as is everyone else's), but I have played with lots of gamers over that time period (because I was in the military and traveled a lot and constantly had new gamers come and go). So I've got a good sample size from back then. That, combined with objective data (the Dragon letters), and it doesn't seem like there was that much of a flame war at all going to 2e. It existed, but not nearly as much as in later editions. And I suspect that was for reasons already mentioned (lack of community discussion via internet, and not much of a change going to 2e because 1e was still compatible).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7146224, member: 15700"] I think you may be misremembering. Gygax got canned in 1985, long before 2e came out, so I highly doubt any arguments about going to 2e were centered around that. Also, I just went through 2 years of Dragon at the time 2e came out. Do you know how many letters to the editor were critical of 2e? 2. One was from someone who was complaining how 2e was sending a message that evil PCs were being removed, and the other was complaining about a line of text that said, "Your PC knows everything you know", because apparently he is "a 15 year old with 4 years of martial arts so giving my PC my knowledge would unbalance the game." Almost all other references to 2e were complimentary (like the monstrous manual having loose leaf sheets), or asking questions. Additionally, if only a % of gamers hang out on forums now, almost none of them did back on Usenet from a ratio perspective. Hardly anyone had a computer period in 1989, let alone the number who had access to a computer with connectivity to other uses. I'm guessing less than 5% of people had that. So saying there was an edition war based on such a tiny sample size is flawed methodology. I know my experience is purely anecdotal (as is everyone else's), but I have played with lots of gamers over that time period (because I was in the military and traveled a lot and constantly had new gamers come and go). So I've got a good sample size from back then. That, combined with objective data (the Dragon letters), and it doesn't seem like there was that much of a flame war at all going to 2e. It existed, but not nearly as much as in later editions. And I suspect that was for reasons already mentioned (lack of community discussion via internet, and not much of a change going to 2e because 1e was still compatible). [/QUOTE]
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