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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5767054" data-attributes="member: 8835"><p>Ah, I see the misunderstanding.</p><p></p><p>Sony produces PS-Current for 10 years. However, PS-Next comes out every 6 years from the release of PS-Previous.</p><p></p><p>Sony made PS1's for 10 years. 6 years in, they release the PS2</p><p>Sony made PS2's for 10 years (this is the last year). 6 years in, they release the PS3</p><p>When the PS3 is 6 years old, they will release the PS4. They will continue making PS3's concurrent with PS4's for 4 years.</p><p></p><p>For a top-end gamer, the 10 year cycle is worthless. Once the PS3 came out, I could give a rat's arse about PS2's a. I already owned one. b. why would I play a lower-res game when I could play a new one?</p><p></p><p>Therefore, to serious gamers, the only time frame that matters is the cycle time between current and the next platform.</p><p></p><p>Note: it's not to say that old games on old platforms aren't fun. But the market driver for the top-end games is the newest platform, not the previous.</p><p></p><p>Opinion: This 6+4 cycle is Sony's strategy, which I feel eats from the sales of the new platform. By NOT making PS2's and having PS3's with BC, anybody considering to buy from Sony will buy a PS3. By making both, consumers get split, and may buy the older, cheaper platform. I imagine many kids get screwed and get cheap PS2's for x-mas because their parents were too cheap to buy the latest technology (and to their eye, didn't even know the difference).*</p><p></p><p>*yes, there's a case for poor people who can't afford the latest technology, but they could have bought a used system if money was so darned tight. Considering how many people would sell the previous platform when they bought the new one BECAUSE it has BC.</p><p></p><p>Conversely, MS does not compete with itself. When the 360 came out, MS pretty much stopped making original xboxes (I do not have the exact dates, but I do know MS didn't make it for 4 freaking years after launch of the 360).</p><p></p><p>MS got a lot more sales, and their new platform was competitively priced at $400. Whereas Sony wanted $600 which was a HUGE jump over prior upgrades.</p><p></p><p>bear in mind, I love that Sony has a 6 year cycle. Compared to PC gaming, it is a promise from the vendor that if you invest in the platform, you are not going to have to upgrade to keep up for a KNOWN set of years. On a PC, you may likely have to upgrade every year or 2 at far greater costs than $400.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So to Agamon's point, yes your PS3 will be supported for 10 years. But are you really going to stick with your PS3 after the PS4 comes out. The majority of console owners upgrade when the new console comes out.</p><p></p><p>Once you upgrade, even if you keep your prior model (or if the new model has BC), the probability of you buying games for the old platform is lower than you buying games for the new platform.</p><p></p><p>If I own a PS2 and PS3 (i got a PS3 60GB w/ BC), and Rock Band comes out for both (it did). Why the smurf would I buy the PS2 version? it will not look as good and will be limited in functionality.</p><p></p><p>this is why the only time frame that actually matters for the majority (and sales=majority) is the CURRENT box. Once the Next comes out, CURRENT status just moved.</p><p></p><p>That's all long winded. I don't have sales data to back up my opinion. But my statements on lifecycle durations are fact. I can't prove that making the old box for 4 extra years hurts adoption of the new box. But I suspect it, and Sony's sales are not as good as MS's. I'm confident that to serious gamers, the latest console is the only one that matters. They might wait a year for the price to drop, but they WILL move to the next console and seldom look back to the old.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janx, post: 5767054, member: 8835"] Ah, I see the misunderstanding. Sony produces PS-Current for 10 years. However, PS-Next comes out every 6 years from the release of PS-Previous. Sony made PS1's for 10 years. 6 years in, they release the PS2 Sony made PS2's for 10 years (this is the last year). 6 years in, they release the PS3 When the PS3 is 6 years old, they will release the PS4. They will continue making PS3's concurrent with PS4's for 4 years. For a top-end gamer, the 10 year cycle is worthless. Once the PS3 came out, I could give a rat's arse about PS2's a. I already owned one. b. why would I play a lower-res game when I could play a new one? Therefore, to serious gamers, the only time frame that matters is the cycle time between current and the next platform. Note: it's not to say that old games on old platforms aren't fun. But the market driver for the top-end games is the newest platform, not the previous. Opinion: This 6+4 cycle is Sony's strategy, which I feel eats from the sales of the new platform. By NOT making PS2's and having PS3's with BC, anybody considering to buy from Sony will buy a PS3. By making both, consumers get split, and may buy the older, cheaper platform. I imagine many kids get screwed and get cheap PS2's for x-mas because their parents were too cheap to buy the latest technology (and to their eye, didn't even know the difference).* *yes, there's a case for poor people who can't afford the latest technology, but they could have bought a used system if money was so darned tight. Considering how many people would sell the previous platform when they bought the new one BECAUSE it has BC. Conversely, MS does not compete with itself. When the 360 came out, MS pretty much stopped making original xboxes (I do not have the exact dates, but I do know MS didn't make it for 4 freaking years after launch of the 360). MS got a lot more sales, and their new platform was competitively priced at $400. Whereas Sony wanted $600 which was a HUGE jump over prior upgrades. bear in mind, I love that Sony has a 6 year cycle. Compared to PC gaming, it is a promise from the vendor that if you invest in the platform, you are not going to have to upgrade to keep up for a KNOWN set of years. On a PC, you may likely have to upgrade every year or 2 at far greater costs than $400. So to Agamon's point, yes your PS3 will be supported for 10 years. But are you really going to stick with your PS3 after the PS4 comes out. The majority of console owners upgrade when the new console comes out. Once you upgrade, even if you keep your prior model (or if the new model has BC), the probability of you buying games for the old platform is lower than you buying games for the new platform. If I own a PS2 and PS3 (i got a PS3 60GB w/ BC), and Rock Band comes out for both (it did). Why the smurf would I buy the PS2 version? it will not look as good and will be limited in functionality. this is why the only time frame that actually matters for the majority (and sales=majority) is the CURRENT box. Once the Next comes out, CURRENT status just moved. That's all long winded. I don't have sales data to back up my opinion. But my statements on lifecycle durations are fact. I can't prove that making the old box for 4 extra years hurts adoption of the new box. But I suspect it, and Sony's sales are not as good as MS's. I'm confident that to serious gamers, the latest console is the only one that matters. They might wait a year for the price to drop, but they WILL move to the next console and seldom look back to the old. [/QUOTE]
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