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<blockquote data-quote="Orius" data-source="post: 6889919" data-attributes="member: 8863"><p>It wouldn't be Trek though. Optimism is part Trek's spirit, it wouldn't be Trek without it. It's a key part of the franchise, and while sometimes I think some of Roddenberry's ideals were more than just a bit out there, his whole optimistic vision isn't one of them. DS9 went darker than any other Trek did, and it managed to still be solid; but even then, there's a lot of Trek fans who didn't like it and felt it wasn't worthy of the Trek name. Something BSG dark would probably cause a big split in the fanbase.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My main problem with the Abrams Trekverse is that he's doing big summer blockbuster-style action sci-fi movies. That's not the right flavor for Trek. The best Trek films - II, III, VI, First Contact - while they all had action pieces, it was the characters that made the movies. Abrams hasn't done that; the characters are mostly <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization" target="_blank">Flanderized</a> with the exceptions of Spock and Uhura and maybe McCoy. Kirk's the worst offender, with the loose cannon maverick tendencies dialed way past 11; that's not the character he is in TOS. The first movie was crap, the second one was better, though really it took its best scenes from WoK.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orius, post: 6889919, member: 8863"] It wouldn't be Trek though. Optimism is part Trek's spirit, it wouldn't be Trek without it. It's a key part of the franchise, and while sometimes I think some of Roddenberry's ideals were more than just a bit out there, his whole optimistic vision isn't one of them. DS9 went darker than any other Trek did, and it managed to still be solid; but even then, there's a lot of Trek fans who didn't like it and felt it wasn't worthy of the Trek name. Something BSG dark would probably cause a big split in the fanbase. My main problem with the Abrams Trekverse is that he's doing big summer blockbuster-style action sci-fi movies. That's not the right flavor for Trek. The best Trek films - II, III, VI, First Contact - while they all had action pieces, it was the characters that made the movies. Abrams hasn't done that; the characters are mostly [url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization]Flanderized[/url] with the exceptions of Spock and Uhura and maybe McCoy. Kirk's the worst offender, with the loose cannon maverick tendencies dialed way past 11; that's not the character he is in TOS. The first movie was crap, the second one was better, though really it took its best scenes from WoK. [/QUOTE]
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