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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7431748" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>Maybe I overstated the mezzodaemon's dislike for rules in my paraphrase of the passage from D3, given that the original statement was made about the "strict" rules of devils, to whom the mezzodaemons are not otherwise averse. It is said daemons will enter into compacts with other evil creatures as long as the arrangement is beneficial to themselves. To make a distinction between that and the CE behavior expected from demons and the like, I'd say that while NE creatures will freely accept such compacts, CE creatures will only accept them under threat of coercive force. Otherwise, CE creatures will not submit to any such entanglements on the principal that they limit the power of the individual in favor of the group as a whole. </p><p></p><p>Upon reviewing D3, daemons don't appear to have been used as guards or for any practical purpose whatsoever in that module. The only place I could find them in the module is on the random encounter table for the city of Erelhei-Cinlu, where they appear to be visitors. They seem to have been put there for no other reason than to reinforce the cosmopolitan character of the city, but a strained reading could tie their presence to the conflict between the city's leading houses. The houses loyal to Lolth may have a stronger connection to demons than those who have converted to the worship of the Elder Elemental God. I say this because one of the former houses (Despana) has among its magic possessions a <em>demon staff</em> while one of the latter houses (Tormtor) has a scroll of <em>protection from demons</em>. So it could be that certain daemons have been enlisted on behalf of the latter houses to counter any demonic aid that may be available to the former. It's also likely, however, that Gygax was looking for a location to place the newly created monsters and found the city's random encounter matrix suitable for the purpose.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 7431748, member: 6787503"] Maybe I overstated the mezzodaemon's dislike for rules in my paraphrase of the passage from D3, given that the original statement was made about the "strict" rules of devils, to whom the mezzodaemons are not otherwise averse. It is said daemons will enter into compacts with other evil creatures as long as the arrangement is beneficial to themselves. To make a distinction between that and the CE behavior expected from demons and the like, I'd say that while NE creatures will freely accept such compacts, CE creatures will only accept them under threat of coercive force. Otherwise, CE creatures will not submit to any such entanglements on the principal that they limit the power of the individual in favor of the group as a whole. Upon reviewing D3, daemons don't appear to have been used as guards or for any practical purpose whatsoever in that module. The only place I could find them in the module is on the random encounter table for the city of Erelhei-Cinlu, where they appear to be visitors. They seem to have been put there for no other reason than to reinforce the cosmopolitan character of the city, but a strained reading could tie their presence to the conflict between the city's leading houses. The houses loyal to Lolth may have a stronger connection to demons than those who have converted to the worship of the Elder Elemental God. I say this because one of the former houses (Despana) has among its magic possessions a [I]demon staff[/I] while one of the latter houses (Tormtor) has a scroll of [I]protection from demons[/I]. So it could be that certain daemons have been enlisted on behalf of the latter houses to counter any demonic aid that may be available to the former. It's also likely, however, that Gygax was looking for a location to place the newly created monsters and found the city's random encounter matrix suitable for the purpose. [/QUOTE]
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