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* WotC would provide the licensee with access to the use of copyright intellectual property including:
* Miniatures character names and artwork
* Proprietary icons & fonts
* Use of D&D Miniatures trademark and logo
* D&D Miniatures card template and layout
What? So all those people making their own cards with MSE and other programs can now sell them?
What? So all those people making their own cards with MSE and other programs can now sell them?
I got to read this thing REAL close!
Actually, only the official licensees, IE the three dudes they named at the bottom of the article. Also, it states the license is for not-for-profit use only, meaning the licensees cannot make money off DDM.
Actually, only the official licensees, IE the three dudes they named at the bottom of the article. Also, it states the license is for not-for-profit use only, meaning the licensees cannot make money off DDM.
You don't have to make a profit to sell things. PDF cards could be free, but what about print-on-demand cards from somewhere to have cards for those that don't have high-end printers and a new ink cartridge for each DDM stat card.
So only the "Guild" can make stats for ANY mini?
Not that you know the answer to this either, but I will ask since I don't know where to find it....
Does this "guild" plan on doing only 2.0 or 1.0 stats for existing DDM sets, and/or future Heroes and Monster sets?
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We hope to have a full website live soon. The goal is to have our official launch at D&D Experience 2009.
Congratz, btw, JohnnyQuest! I'm sure you're really excited about this!
Oh, and btw, it's good to finally see you over in this neck of teh intarwebs! I know this isn't exactly a hotspot for DDM-talk, but please do stop by more often! You always seem pleasant on the Gleemax boards.
Well thanks, Doc! I'm a DM, too, so I will jump into some more conversations, I think. I'm very much excited about continuing the skirmish game. It's an amazing opportunity.
I cannot currently imagine any significant way in which this is not great news! Community-based development rocks!
WoTC has done this with almost all of their old settings and games - Dragon Dice, Birthright, Mystara, Dark Sun, Dragonlance, and so on. They decide that they will no longer produce material for the game/setting and hand it to someone else to take over (with a limit on where they can go with it). Granted, they can revoke the license, like Dragonlance, but still.
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Things like DragonLance are very different than this. That being that they had a length to the license, and WotC decided not to renew, not that it could pull the license at just any time without reason.
The DDM license thing can be pulled tomorrow with no reason or recourse.
Things like DragonLance are very different than this. That being that they had a length to the license, and WotC decided not to renew, not that it could pull the license at just any time without reason.
The DDM license thing can be pulled tomorrow with no reason or recourse.
Yes, that is true. The Guild guys know this and they are willing to accept the risk. The two reasons I could ever really foresee us taking the license away from the Guild are because a) they totally screw it up (and let me just say I don't see that happening) b) their efforts grow the game to such a point that we want to take it back and as Kevin said on our initial phone call "we hope we grow this game to the point that you want it back".
This is a labor of love for them and the license is way of supporting their efforts. I see it as a real win win for everyone involved. We are elated to have such an impassioned community effort to keep the game going.
Yes, that is true. The Guild guys know this and they are willing to accept the risk. The two reasons I could ever really foresee us taking the license away from the Guild are because a) they totally screw it up (and let me just say I don't see that happening) b) their efforts grow the game to such a point that we want to take it back and as Kevin said on our initial phone call "we hope we grow this game to the point that you want it back".
This is a labor of love for them and the license is way of supporting their efforts. I see it as a real win win for everyone involved. We are elated to have such an impassioned community effort to keep the game going.
Yeah, but I didn't want to state the obvious or put anyone on the line with "possible" reasons that could affect the view of WotC later, was just pointing out the difference in the license and possibility it has versus the Dragon/Dungeon license with Paizo, AD&D license with K&C, DragonLance with MWP, etc....that all had a set time limit that gave both WotC and the licensee an option to renew, with WotC having the first option that determines the licensees option. (blargh! I hope I got all that right!)
Wasn't implying anything, other than how this license differs from one that is secured in length.
Silly question for you or JQ...does skirmish support only mean DCI related tracking and scoring, or also prize support for the Guild skirmish tournaments under DCI and WotC, and how/who will be responsible with that?
As well does it only apply for 2.0 DDM, or 1.0 as well?
I must not be able to find that on the thread because many people are talking about converting 1.0 to 2.0 now under the "rule" of the Guild, and others wanting to be able to convert 2.0 backwards for those wanting to play 1.0 with the newest minis.
Also, for whomever; does it include stating of the new Heroes and Monster lines into DDM (1.0 or 2.0)?
Why not just another question while I am at it...
Should WotC reclaim DDM skirmish game from the Guild, who will own the new stats? Will players get to keep the Guilds stats and use them in the future, or will all those stats and cards be redone by WotC, making people have to switch they way they play yet again?
-AKA are the Guild stats and conversions considered official WotC products for skirmish games in the future?
NOTE: I would love some more life to 1.0 skirmish!
Hey, thanks for your interest and questions, justanobody!
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Silly question for you or JQ...does skirmish support only mean DCI related tracking and scoring, or also prize support for the Guild skirmish tournaments under DCI and WotC, and how/who will be responsible with that?
The proposed license agreement calls for WotC to continue tracking tournaments and DCI ranks for D&D Miniatures. Prize support will be handled by the Guild. Suggestions are welcome!
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As well does it only apply for 2.0 DDM, or 1.0 as well?
I won't answer for our OP Lead, but our intention is to support both formats, and I don't see a reason why we can't use the DCI system to track both types of tournaments.
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Also, for whomever; does it include stating of the new Heroes and Monster lines into DDM (1.0 or 2.0)?
The current group of freelance designers that is finishing the update of all sets to the 2.0 rules (see Blood War for an example) has agreed to create 2.0 stats for the Heroes and Monsters lines going forward. It is unclear at this point as to whether a group is interested in creating 1.0 stats for the Heroes and Monsters line. As you mention, there is a group that is working on converting Dungeons of Dread, Against the Giants, and Demonweb back to the 1.0 rules. The Guild has yet to determine a process for sanctioning of that work.
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Should WotC reclaim DDM skirmish game from the Guild, who will own the new stats? Will players get to keep the Guilds stats and use them in the future, or will all those stats and cards be redone by WotC, making people have to switch they way they play yet again?
Obviously, I can't speak for WotC, but it's hard to envision a scenario in which the Guild is so successful that WotC wants to produce the skirmish game again (and, yes, that would be the ultimate success), yet they'd want to undo all the work of the Guild. That dog don't hunt
Last edited by JohnnyQuest; 21st November 2008 at 06:59 PM..
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