[Proposal]: PH Heroes Series 1

ukingsken · 24th July 2009, 04:14 PM

I was preparing to make my 2nd character, noodling around in the character builder. I suddenly realized no one had proposed this. For those of you who don't know PH Heroes Series 1 was a set of miniatures released in April of this year, and each miniature came with a new power for the class they represented.

There are 12 level 1 powers, 4 level 6 powers, and a single level 10 power (from a quick count on insider).

So since I want to use one of these powers for my bard:

I propose that we approve the new powers offered in the PH Heroes Series 1 miniatures packs. The following is a list of links for any of you who have insider.

Foe to Foe Barbarian 1
Cutting Words Bard 1
Gaze of Defiance Cleric 1
Grasping Tide Druid 1
Knowckdown Assault Fighter 1
Challenging Strike Paladin 1
Hunters Teamwork Ranger 1
Probing Strike Rogue 1
Arcing Fire Sorcerer 1
Eldritch Strike Warlock 1
Rousing Assault Warlord 1
Chilling Cloud Wizard 1
Laugh It Off Barbarian 6
Walk Among The Wounded Cleric 6
Daring Shot Fighter 6
Hidden Blade Rogue 6
Ethereal Sidestep Warlock 10
Repelling Shield Wizard 10

Anyone who is involved with L4W will recognize this exact proposal from me over there. The general consensus was that they were ok but here it is once again for consideration.

I vote an ethereal YES in the hopes that it's spirit of not counting-ness will be taken up by the voting judges. This proposal has nothing to do with my barbarian wanting foe to foe. nothing at all.

TwoHeadsBarking · 24th July 2009, 05:23 PM

Yes on the condition that Warlocks get to choose two of the following: Eldritch Strike, Eldritch Blast, and their Pact At-will.

ukingsken · 24th July 2009, 05:51 PM

Mmmmm the deja-vu thickns. Can we have a time warp dance off, musical style?

Vertexx69 · 24th July 2009, 06:23 PM

Well it is just a jump to the left ;p

For those without DDI can we get them copied here in their entirety?

stonegod · 24th July 2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vertexx69

Well it is just a jump to the left ;p

For those without DDI can we get them copied here in their entirety?

Nope (just like we can't copy the books).

If you have a question about one, someone might be able to PM the details.

renau1g · 24th July 2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBarking

Yes on the condition that Warlocks get to choose two of the following: Eldritch Strike, Eldritch Blast, and their Pact At-will.

I vote YES as well. Same condition as TBH. No need to limit Eldritch Strike to just humans.

ukingsken · 24th July 2009, 09:58 PM

Agreement. And if you wanna see em Vertex they come with the mini's :P But I bet you'd spend less just buying DDI

Wow WOTC should be paying me for pushing DDI on people.

elecgraystone · 24th July 2009, 09:58 PM

Vertexx69 or anyone else that needs details on the powers feel free to PM me. I've made a personal list of these powers and can answer your questions.

renau1g · 24th July 2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ukingsken

Wow WOTC should be paying me for pushing DDI on people.

They don't pay you? I get a 15% commission for everyone I sign up

hornedturtle · 25th July 2009, 12:51 AM

What do those two warlock powers do?

TwoHeadsBarking · 25th July 2009, 01:24 AM

The level 1 gives you a weapon-based MBA with Cha or Con that lets you slide the target. The level 10 effectively gives you a teleport speed of 1.

Kalidrev · 25th July 2009, 01:32 AM

The only possible reason I can see of getting a teleport speed of 1 would be to use it against a fighter who has marked you. But seriously, how many NPC's/monsters out there have the ability to mark you AND also have the ability to attack you if you shift? Is that power really worth it as a level 10 power? Can it be improved with feats or other teleport-boosting items/powers?

TwoHeadsBarking · 25th July 2009, 01:50 AM

Well, it let's you shift one square even when immobilized/in difficult terrain. If you take any of the items that increase your teleport speed, it gets a lot better. If you have some ability that triggers when you teleport (like Slashing Wake *shudders*) you can get a lot of extra use out of it.

hornedturtle · 25th July 2009, 01:55 AM

Unless the melee attack did a lot more than the standard Eldrich blast I think I would go with out it.

ukingsken · 25th July 2009, 02:06 AM

well teleport boosting items would work on it, so you could theoretically become very mobile, and it would work well with a few prestige classes.

Evermeet warlock would be cool, because every turn you could become invisible to all adjacent enemies when you use it, and then at the end of the PP you could take an ally with you every turn.

With the feytouched PP you'd be dealing damage to all adjacent enemies everytime you used it.

So I guess it's focused, but I could certainly see having fun with it. In fact I am now going to hunt for a game in which I can play a warlock just to try out an idea I had with that power. Maybe a lot of the appeal is in flavor, but I still think it's cool for it's level.

EvolutionKB · 25th July 2009, 04:39 AM

I'll vote YES with the same deals with warlocks.

elecgraystone · 25th July 2009, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hornedturtle

Unless the melee attack did a lot more than the standard Eldrich blast I think I would go with out it.

I took Eldritch strike. Dumped my pact at will in a heartbeat.

ukingsken · 25th July 2009, 01:40 PM

Yay succeeding proposal! That means I can get Cleaver approved! Well soonish anyway.

renau1g · 25th July 2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elecgraystone

I took Eldritch strike. Dumped my pact at will in a heartbeat.

? You are required to take our pact at-will. By RAW only humans can take the Eldritch Strike as each class is required to take Eldritch Blast. Our proposal only allows on to switch out Blast for Strike, but still keep their pact powers.