The big announcement: 4dventure

EricNoah

Adventurer

• Aug 16, 2007

• #291

Well, I have a TON of 3E stuff. More than i could probably use in my whole lifetime. I was VERY turned off by how WotC handled Master Tools/eTools and have very little faith that their character building/management tools will mesh with the way I play. I was VERY turned off by how WotC handled the Dragon and Dungeon magazine situation.

I don't begrudge anyone a new edition. Who knows, in a few years I might be ready. But I just have scads and scads and scads of stuff I haven't used yet. I just don't see it happening...

 

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Friadoc

Explorer

• Aug 16, 2007

• #292

EricNoah said:

My goal is to stick with 3e and yet avoid becoming a bitter grognard. Possible? We'll find out...

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While I can see my group buying 4e stuff, we're still so engrained in our Arcana Evolved campaign (played with the same characters since Arcana Unearthed released) that I don't see us jumping systems unless Monte Cook suddenly releases AE/AU 4th Edition.

Personally, I think 3e is very viable branch/splinter that could easily go on a tangent development/production line, but only if enough companies step-up to help it happen.

Green Ronin is one such company, Paizo could easily be another, as is Malhvoc Press.

 

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Ycore Rixle

First Post

• Aug 16, 2007

• #293

Count me in as stunned. I thought they were going to wait longer. I hope that Chris Perkins and Chris Thomasson have had a strong hand in the design (surely the design must be almost over by now?). I keep thinking of how Peter Adkison was such a great guiding force for Jonathan, Monte, and Skip. Wow. I just hope they did 4E right.

I was at the Trade Day seminar with Randy Buehler (sp?) today. Randy is in charge of Gleemax. I wonder if he knew that his board minions were about to let the cat prematurely out of the bag?

 

Xyxox

Hero

• Aug 16, 2007

• #294

Charwoman Gene said:

Wrong.

You don't even know if 4e is fundamentally incompatible.

D&D has forked dozens of times before, and survived, anyway.

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Guranteed it'll fork.

One fork open, the other closed. IF the only way you can develop content for 4E is on the D&D Insider site and nowhere else, that's a closed system.

Ergo, the 3.5 SRD continues on one completely open fork and 4E continues on the other, closed fork.

 

Inferno!

Explorer

• Aug 16, 2007

• #295

There is a bright side for those of you that don't intend to switch. Just think of all the cheap 3.5 books showing up at Half-Price Books and eBay.

 

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Nyarlathotep

Explorer

• Aug 16, 2007

• #296

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catsclaw227

First Post

• Aug 16, 2007

• #297

Friadoc said:

...unless Monte Cook suddenly releases AE/AU 4th Edition.

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That would be 256 shades of awesome.

I also welcome our new 4e overlords.

Welcome 4verlords!

 

Friadoc

Explorer

• Aug 16, 2007

• #298

EricNoah said:

Well, I have a TON of 3E stuff. More than i could probably use in my whole lifetime. I was VERY turned off by how WotC handled Master Tools/eTools and have very little faith that their character building/management tools will mesh with the way I play. I was VERY turned off by how WotC handled the Dragon and Dungeon magazine situation.

I don't begrudge anyone a new edition. Who knows, in a few years I might be ready. But I just have scads and scads and scads of stuff I haven't used yet. I just don't see it happening...

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Definately a series of dropped balls there, in my not so humble opinion.

Heck, I remember the Dragon and Dungeon announcement day/weekend, as I was all over the boards, not always possessing a cool head, either.

Master Tools/eTools was a great idea that was mishandled. It is really hard, in my opinion, for non-tech companies to try and launch an ambitious tech idea, which Master Tools/eTools was.

But, the cool factor of getting that CD in the PHB still tickles my fancy.

Now, hopefully, they've learned from the past few years, worked out some kinks, are the coming product will show that, but I'm nervous about that, for sure.

 

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Vocenoctum

First Post

• Aug 16, 2007

• #299

Friadoc said:

Green Ronin is one such company, Paizo could easily be another, as is Malhvoc Press.

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Green Ronin created True20 to avoid 4e, and Malhavoc is gone, so you might want to trim your hopes down a bit.

 

Kaodi

Hero

• Aug 16, 2007

• #300

I hope it is not too late for naughty names. I present to you, 4BAR.