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PDFS--Of the WotC Court Case

JohnRTroy

Adventurer
Okay,

All of you are curious of the Lawsuit.

Here are the public records of the existing lawsuits.

The ZIP files are each separate suits. The Letter Codes are the initials of the judges. These are public records so there is no law or secret violations of me posting these.

Seems a straightforward case...

EDIT--Stupid Header Typo.

I am willing to provide updates, but keep in mind PACER has a cost of .08 per page, so at some point I may say "nah" and not get it, or wait until time has passed so is an economic download...
 

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JohnRTroy

Adventurer
Interesting point from one of the lawsuits...

29. In addition to the watermark of the purchaser's name and order number, electronic books downloaded from DriveThruRPG also include a micro-watermark embedded in a pixel of the downloaded work that also identifies the purchaser's account number which can then be traced to the purchaser's name and address.

It goes on to say that's how they got identified...
 



Imperialus

Explorer
wow... between the three cases they are estimating that 2993 people downloaded the PHB2 in the span of a few days...

With a cover price of 35 dollars that means that wizards lost 104755 dollars...
 

MerricB

Eternal Optimist
Supporter
wow... between the three cases they are estimating that 2993 people downloaded the PHB2 in the span of a few days...

With a cover price of 35 dollars that means that wizards lost 104755 dollars...

Well, not quite - Wizards doesn't get every cent of that $35. However, it's a significant amount.

Cheers!
 

malraux

First Post
wow... between the three cases they are estimating that 2993 people downloaded the PHB2 in the span of a few days...

With a cover price of 35 dollars that means that wizards lost 104755 dollars...

Assuming all would have purchased the book without the pdf available.
 

Wicht

Hero
Its interesting that in all three cases, the embedded micro-ids did the job of identifying the culprits.

As noticed repeatedly lately, they are eliminating one of their best tools in hunting down these pirates by eliminating the legal channels through which to mark the pdfs.
 


Caerin

First Post
Assuming all would have purchased the book without the pdf available.

Right- you can't really determine loss in that fashion. They don't specify what they consider actual damages in this document.

Also, in addition to asking for actual damages/profit (when they're talking about 504 (b)) they're also asking for statutory damages for willful infringement (504(c), or up to $150,000 per infringement).
 

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