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Sunday, 24th May, 2009, 09:15 AM #51
Lama (Lvl 13)
If I leave out the DMG (4e) can I have adv vault AND PHB2?
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Sunday, 24th May, 2009, 09:27 AM #52
Time Agent (Lvl 24)
For me, there is no "ONE BOOK" answer.
The 4th book- assuming D&D 3.5Ed- would depend upon the particular PC concept I'm trying to play. If I'm playing a combat monster, I'd probably go CompWar. If I'm playing a spellcaster, CompArc.
Or maybe I'd choose one of the more expansive books, like the XPH, ToM or MoI.
And of course, there's always books like DCv1, UE, Savage Species, Miniatures Handbook, BotR and so forth, each of which might be crucial to a particular PC design.
Sunday, 24th May, 2009, 12:08 PM #53
Lama (Lvl 13)
Sunday, 24th May, 2009, 04:02 PM #54
Thaumaturgist (Lvl 9)
Anyway for 4e its the PHB2 - although the Adventures Vault is a close second. (it depends on what level the game starts.)
If the game starts well above 1st, I would feel the pinch of limited magic items. While each character would have enough powers, feats and Paragon options to reduce the limited character concepts of only the original PHB)
for 3.5 as a player its the PHB2. As a DM its the Expanded Psionics Handbook. I love me those psionic villians. (halflings and blue goblins esp.)
Monday, 25th May, 2009, 03:03 PM #55
Defender (Lvl 8)
3rd: Player's Handbook 2 -or- Eberron Campaign Setting -or- Arcana Evolved (though this really replaces the PHB, it doesn't augment)
4th: Player's Handbook 2
Monday, 25th May, 2009, 03:19 PM #56
whether I'm running OD&D/S&W, B/X, 1E, or 4E core, I think the one extra book would be Secrets of Xendrik (despite the fact I don't run Eberron)- tons of snaggable locations, plots, and idea kernels.
DaveMage brought up something I never owned, but forgot about- WOHF- that might be my pick too.
Monday, 25th May, 2009, 03:26 PM #57
Acolyte (Lvl 2)
Assuming the thread title means we have access to any adventures/modules, Id go with .....
3E/3.5 - Pathfinder Campaign Setting (Golarion)
2E - Tome of Magic
1E - Fiend Folio
Assuming the OP meant things literally with no access to adventures (trapped on a desert island scenario), Id go with.....
3E/3.5 - Castle Whiterock Boxed or Shackled City HC
2E - Night Below Boxed
1E - Temple of Elemental Evil
Monday, 25th May, 2009, 07:59 PM #58
Acolyte (Lvl 2)
For my 4th edition game, I'd get PTOLUS... Guess what I'm running now!
It's a great book and it just fits 4ed. IMHO.
Monday, 25th May, 2009, 08:34 PM #59
Minor Trickster (Lvl 4)
My group is also not very good at following rules set down by authority figures, so they usually run afoul of the Ten Commandments on multiple levels. All it usually takes is a visit to the tavern and they've violated three or four. My PCs think we should just hand-wave them away, but I think that you really lose the flavor of the setting that way.
I also am not fond of the level of deity intervention in that setting. I understand that in the later setting material it's not so blatant, but you did specifically mention the Bible here, so that's what I'm going off of.
The final nail in the coffin for me, though, is the lack of character options. Most of the races just aren't there, and everyone seems to want to play as Gods Chosen People which IMO are poorly balanced, with numerous benefits but mainly roleplaying restrictions to balance them out, like 2E drow. Also, I'm a big fan of arcane classes, and the way the setting is structured it's basically impossible to have a divine and arcane character in the same party, since the divine users won't suffer the arcane ones to live.
However, to each his own!
"If your will is not strong, if your thought does not oppose injustice, you will fritter away your life stuck in the commonplace, silently submitting to the bonds of emotion, forever cowering before mediocrities, never escaping the downward flow."
Monday, 25th May, 2009, 09:49 PM #60
I''ll cheat and go with a custom set
Players Handbook upgrade
DMG' /Setting upgrade
Big Book of Monsters
Huge Book of spells and magic
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