AC? The closest comparison, the mountain giant, has +29 natural armor.
CR? The mountain giant is woefully over-CRed at 26. WotC designers have recommended a revised CR of 16 for them. These guys aren't as tough as a CR 24 stone colossus.
Humanoid gargantua stand 80 to 100 feet tall and weigh x tons.
The original's AC was precisely midway between the Reptilian and Insectoid. If we did the same for the Humanoid it'd have AC43.
I would prefer a nice round AC 42 or AC 45 though, which would require a NA of +39 or +42. I don't much mind which.
Yes, I remember the Mountain Giant CR debacle when they first came out, they were MM2 weren't they?
I'm thinking CR 20, since they're not that far off from a Tarrasque statwise.
Based on the assumption that a six-foot tall Humanoid would weigh 300 lbs, like a slightly skinny gorilla or a really burly human, I'll say 500 tons. That's half the weight of the Reptilian.
Does the "they are able to comprehend short phrases of human languages 25% of the time" in their entry suggest Humanoid Gargantua cannot speak, but understand Common?
EDIT: Oh, and are we doing Huge and Gargantuan immature specimens like we did for the Reptilian?
Double posts are twice as nice!
Let's go with 42.
The tarrasque is probably under-CRed. This thing would make paste out of a balor or pit fiend!
That works.
Nah. I'd like them to be able to speak Giant, at the very least. We can note that they can comprehend a smigeon of Common.
Ugh...only if we must!
I'd rather find suitable other giants to just say "use moutain giant stats" or whatnot.
If not, I'm leaving for a little over a week starting Friday, so you guys will have plenty of time to hash those out without leading to post-traumatic stress disorder for me.