Converting Creatures from Other Campaign Settings
Cleon
Legend
I'll update the working draft with Absorb Corpse then.
As for the "single zombie" version, the text suggests these don't attack people, but just wander about until they find another Lost Soul to merge with.
As such, we might be able to get away with saying they have standard human skeleton stats.
I wouldn't use the SRD Zombie because Lost Souls are as fast as humans and a standard human zombie would have more hit points than a basic Lost Soul, due to the Zombie's 2HD and Toughness bonus feat (HD 2d12+3 vs HD 2d12+2).
Plus, the Skeleton has claws like a lost soul does.
Although that makes me think, should we give a Lost Soul any Damage Reduction?
Cleon
Legend
I've made the update.
I've also changed the name from "Zombie Lost Soul" to "Corporeal Lost Soul", since "Zombie" might become confusing.
Where are we going to add the stats for a "single-body lost soul"? Make it an underbar?
New Lost Souls
Most lost souls are an amalgamation of multiple bodies, but a newly created consists of a single animated corpse. Such "single body" lost souls resemble zombies, but have the same stats as a human commoner skeleton with a lost soul's Absorb Corpse special ability, except that have DR 5/slashing instead of 5/bludgeoning?. They have none of a regular lost souls' other special attacks (fear, gnaw, improved grab) or qualities (all-around vision, fast healing, unholy toughness).
A new lost soul will instinctively seek out other lost souls to merge with, so they rarely stay single-bodied for long.
I've also changed the name from "Zombie Lost Soul" to "Corporeal Lost Soul", since "Zombie" might become confusing.
Where are we going to add the stats for a "single-body lost soul"? Make it an underbar?
New Lost Souls
Most lost souls are an amalgamation of multiple bodies, but a newly created consists of a single animated corpse. Such "single body" lost souls resemble zombies, but have the same stats as a human commoner skeleton with a lost soul's Absorb Corpse special ability, except that have DR 5/slashing instead of 5/bludgeoning?. They have none of a regular lost souls' other special attacks (fear, gnaw, improved grab) or qualities (all-around vision, fast healing, unholy toughness).
A new lost soul will instinctively seek out other lost souls to merge with, so they rarely stay single-bodied for long.
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Shade
Monster Junkie
Cleon
Legend
Well it increases in size as it gains hit dice through Absorb Corpse according to its Advancement entry, which is currently "3-5 HD (Medium); 6-8 HD (Large)".
The original had 2-8 HD at 1 HD per corpse, but that picture sure looks like they can get Huge or bigger, and there seems to be a sight more than 8 corpses in the mix.
How about going up to Gargantua. I'm thinking of keeping the +4 HD for the first size increase, suggesting something like:
3-5 HD (Medium); 6-9 HD (Large); 10-15 HD (Huge); 16-24 HD (Gargantua)
Is that all right by you?
Cleon
Legend
Any preferences for the "single body" lost souls and the DR/slashing question?
Shade
Monster Junkie
I'd rather it go Large faster (two people side by side have a space of 10 ft. in D&D terms).
Also, I still think we need to actually have stat blocks at each size.
Cleon said:
If we have stat blocks for each size, we can easily add a "single body" version at the beginning.
I'd support DR/slashing.
Shade
Monster Junkie
OK, let's rework this.
After reading through it again, the weakest lost soul is clearly 4+4 HD. The original allows it to "grow" 4 times, gaining a total of 4 more HD and 4 more attacks. Although the text at one point contradicts the stat block and other text on number of claws, I think regardless of the starting number, it makes sense to gain 2 claw attacks with each merging (each individual "zombie" has 2 hands). I'd suggest we retain the original ratio, but allow for greater HD growth. Following that logic...
4 HD = Medium = 1 lost soul = 2 claws
8 HD = Large = 2 merged lost souls = 4 claws
12 HD = Huge = 3 merged lost souls = 6 claws
16 HD = Gargantuan = 4 merged lost souls = 8 claws
Fast healing could improve by 2 at each size increase. DR would improve at some point, but not necessarily each time.
Obviously, "absorb corpse" would need to be modified to account for these changes. For simplicity's sake, if two lost souls of different sizes merge, it would be easiest to add the total HD and find the closest size match.
Added the first two sizes to Homebrews.
After reading through it again, the weakest lost soul is clearly 4+4 HD. The original allows it to "grow" 4 times, gaining a total of 4 more HD and 4 more attacks. Although the text at one point contradicts the stat block and other text on number of claws, I think regardless of the starting number, it makes sense to gain 2 claw attacks with each merging (each individual "zombie" has 2 hands). I'd suggest we retain the original ratio, but allow for greater HD growth. Following that logic...
4 HD = Medium = 1 lost soul = 2 claws
8 HD = Large = 2 merged lost souls = 4 claws
12 HD = Huge = 3 merged lost souls = 6 claws
16 HD = Gargantuan = 4 merged lost souls = 8 claws
Fast healing could improve by 2 at each size increase. DR would improve at some point, but not necessarily each time.
Obviously, "absorb corpse" would need to be modified to account for these changes. For simplicity's sake, if two lost souls of different sizes merge, it would be easiest to add the total HD and find the closest size match.
Added the first two sizes to Homebrews.
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