D&D 4E Revised 4E Wizard Class with Freeform Spellcasting System
The errata to CaGI, which replaced auto-pull followed by an attack with an attack vs Will to pull and damage, was (in my view) the worst manifestation of post-Essentials capitulation to critics of 4e.
The point of CaGI is to allow the fighter to do his/her thing and pull in his/her foes. The damage is secondary.
The point of CaGI is to allow the fighter to do his/her thing and pull in his/her foes. The damage is secondary.
Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
the damage is tertiary, with marking and pulling more important.
I think that in adjusted form worrying over if they can't reach the fighter they don't try? is giving someone suckered into action way too much control.
Yeah, I think a bunch of large issues show up in the whole 2 pages. I'm just identifying crazy breakage from a 4e system standpoint, but I don't think the 2 pages generally model 4e well. 4e's very much about medium-low to medium-high complexity forced choice where this system is about high complexity or spamming.
If you can spam an option repeatedly, every option either needs to have a high level of balance or things break/don't get used. Basically, this system simply can't represent great powers that 4e is known for having, because if it could, a PC could use them 4* an encounter instead of once and things break...
Honestly, most people in CharOp thought it ended up stronger.
The worst manifestation of post-Essentials was allowing Expertise/Defense feats in, instead of just handwaving and saying, "Hey, everyone gets +1/2/3 feat/item to attack/defenses at 5/15/25" - because the feats were so crazy good, most PCs would need to have 2-3 of them by 11th. When you only have 7-8 feats, that's a lot of design space eaten up. So more boring builds...
Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
How so?
Fighters with +3 proficiency weapons who have CA are really high accuracy against NADs…
Tony Vargas
Legend
Rolling the attacks still marks them, so the fighter's still doing his thing, even if the pull doesn't work (and it might not work for other reasons, like not having a square to pull them into).
The /worst/ manifestation of post-Essentials capitulation was the class designs.
Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
It certainly makes the over all thing more reliable
About all that was lost was a bit of damage. (.. the part which scaled by attribute though)
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Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
Isn't that middle essentials capitulation...
