improved familiar ?

darkbard · Jan 5, 2003

do improved familiars get the intelligence and natural armor bonus equivalent with their master's level or only those bonuses which exceed their beginning score? for example, does a quasit familiar of a 7th level caster receive an additional +4 natural armor, or just +1 to bring its natural armor up from +3 to +4 according to the chart on p. 51 of the PHB? what about its intelligence score? thanks in advance.

darkbard · Jan 5, 2003

ummm ... if a mod sees this, maybe you can slide this over to the rules forum where i probably should have posted it. thanks.

AGGEMAM · Jan 5, 2003

It says 'improvement to Natural Armor', so it does indeed stack with an existing natural armor bonus.

Wippit Guud · Jan 6, 2003

I suddenly want a pseudodragon familiar...

aurellius · Jan 6, 2003

The question is....

When you get the psedodragon what does it give you?

Toad = +2 con etc etc.....

They never listed the bonus for any of the improved familairs...

Marcus

Magic Rub · Jan 6, 2003

aurellius said:
The question is....

When you get the psedodragon what does it give you?

Toad = +2 con etc etc.....

They never listed the bonus for any of the improved familairs...

Marcus

You gain Zilch, Zip, & nothing in the way of a traditional familiar skill, ability or save bonus. However! In essence, you're gaining a second character and depending on what you pick, a very nice character at that. Which IMO is far better then a cheese eating, & petty increase to a skill, or save you'd gain from a regular familiar. A totally loyal servant & friend who far out strips any "normal" familiar. For example, if you have a Imp or Psedodragon, They can fly to you & bandage you if you fall, and/or feed you a healing potion when no one else can get to you. Cast spells & spell like abilities of their own. In the case of the Imp, innate Invisibility, innate polymorph self (with some minor limits) & Detect magic at will. All this and a whole lot more.

The benefits are far far greater then any of "drawbacks"!

Viktyr Gehrig · Jan 6, 2003

Wippit Guud said:
I suddenly want a pseudodragon familiar...

Or better, an Alienist with a Pseudonatural Pseudodragon...

Taloras · Jan 6, 2003

Anyone tried the tressym(FR) as a familiar? Im thinking about it, but i have a question. Familiars have an INT score according to your level. does this change the tressym's int score in any way(adding to it), or does it simply wait till the score listed is better than the one that comes naturally? (tressym is int 13 i believe)

Caliban · Jan 6, 2003

Taloras said:
Anyone tried the tressym(FR) as a familiar? Im thinking about it, but i have a question. Familiars have an INT score according to your level. does this change the tressym's int score in any way(adding to it), or does it simply wait till the score listed is better than the one that comes naturally? (tressym is int 13 i believe)

There is supposed to be errata for the FRCS that reduces the Tressym's Int to a 2. (If has an Int greater than 2, it's technically not an animal.)

Taloras · Jan 6, 2003

Caliban said:
There is supposed to be errata for the FRCS that reduces the Tressym's Int to a 2. (If has an Int greater than 2, it's technically not an animal.)

Well, in the description for the Tressym, it specifically states that it is highly intelligent, which is why wizards like them for familiars. Its highly intelligent, but cannot speak. Of course, if i get the Tressym as a familiar.....it will be more intelligent than half the party.

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