DPR King Candidates 3.0

• Add the row yourself in the google doc(on the sheet for your level). Feel free to create and protect a seperate sheet for your own calculations for your build. The link column should either point to your worksheet (URL when viewing your sheet) or to the forum post where your build is outlined.
  

• Reply to this thread or the old DPR king candidates 2.0 with your build. I'll add a row in the google doc. If you provide DPR I'll convert to KPR(see sig) assumming you'll do the same thing every round. If you use encounter powers outline total expected damage in round 2,5, and 10.
  

• 1/2Elf: Uses 1/2 elf dilettante + versatile master to cherry pick at-will(Best ones are Twin Strike, Eldritch Strike, Virtuous Strike)
• AoE: Area of Effect attack. KPR calculation has been converted from to Single target KPR
• BB: Brutal Barrage
• Bld: Must be bloodied w/o bloodfury weapon
• CA: Combat Advantage. Some builds, often rogues, simply assume they have CA to be competative. Other builds, like those that use Surprising charge, need it to blow people up but have a hard time generating it.
• Ch: Charge, This build assumes it will be able to safely charge every round
• DV-RBA: Distant Vengance applied to non-avenger RBA
• Fey: Uses the Fey Beast Tamer theme for easy CA cheese
• Frst: Frost cheese: Lasting frost often grouped with Wintertouched to get consistent CA and an extra 5 damage
• IRC: Item Rarity Compliant
• Mnt: Uses a mount
• noD: You do not have adequate defenses. Must achieve at least Poor on : Normalized Defences
• noLFR: Not Legal in Living Forgotten Realms. Typically means has Mark of X
• Rev.: Revenant. Cheesy when coupled with Belt of sollinor's righteousness (practically can't die), or Ghostly Vitality+Superior will for extra actions
• RM: Radiant Mafia: Uses any of the following: Morninglord, Radiant One, Pelor's Sun Blessing
• Solo: Assumes either no allies adjacent or no other foes adjacent to target
• Twin: Uses Twin strike
• Typed: Typed damage confers Keyword to power (Frozen whetstone, shocking flame for example), not Frost weapon et al
• IDR: Injected Damage Roll. Uses some means of adding a damage roll to a power that otherwise wouldn't have one, then adds damage boosters because "it's a damage roll"

yargon said:

So after a few chats with erachima and mellowship on the ##4eCO chat I'd like to show you

Nusku, level 1, Human, Sorcerer (Elementalist)

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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Nusku, level 1
Human, Sorcerer (Elementalist)
Unseelie Agent Starting Feature Option: Dagger
Elemental Specialty Option: Fire Elementalist
Human Power Selection Option: Heroic Effort
Theme: Unseelie Agent

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 8, CON 14, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 10, CHA 20

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 8, CON 14, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 10, CHA 18


AC: 12 Fort: 13 Ref: 11 Will: 18
HP: 26 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 6

TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +5, Bluff +10, Dungeoneering +5, Endurance +7, Intimidate +10

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +0, Athletics –1, Diplomacy +5, Heal +0, History +0, Insight +0, Nature +0, Perception +0, Religion +0, Stealth +0, Streetwise +5, Thievery +0

POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Unseelie Agent Utility: Create Shadow-Wrought Weapon
Human Racial Power: Heroic Effort
Sorcerer Attack: Elemental Bolt
Sorcerer Attack: Ignition
Sorcerer Attack: Elemental Escalation (Fire)

FEATS
Superior Implement Training (Incendiary dagger)
Level 1: Arcane Reserves

ITEMS

====== End ======




KP2R: 41.25(round 1)+16.5(round 2)+9.9 (AP presence odds across 5-encounter day) +9.9 (heroic effort during nova)+4.224(heroic effort outside nova)
KP5R: 41.25(round 1)+66(round 2-5)+9.9 (AP presence odds across 5-encounter day) +9.9 (heroic effort during nova)+6.76(heroic effort outside nova)
KP10R: 41.25(round 1)+148.5(round 2-10)+9.9 (AP presence odds across 5-encounter day) +9.9 (heroic effort during nova)+13.73(heroic effort outside nova)


KP2R = 2.56,
KP5R = 4.18,
KP10R = 6.98
Mean KPR = 0.938

Utalising unseelies 1st level power to manifest Magic Incendiary dagger +1: crit 1d8.
Combined with Arcane reserves, as well as heroic effort , Nusku is able to fire off Elemental bolt after Elemental Bolt, blowing his escallation on round 1, he immediatly drops to adding in his +2 damage with at wills.

I think Nusku could be top level 1 striker, can some one check this out to doubly sure.

Thank you both for your assitance
NOTE:
further discusions arose around accuracy feats etc, so is there anyway to improve upon this?

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spikedmarkovchain said:

Here's a quick sketch of a level 1 abusing the independent action rules for companions. It's not very optimized.

Basically, you have to be 20-25 squares away Twin Striking with your Greatbow while your animal companions flip out for not having someone close enough to command them. Fey Beasts don't seem to have an independent action clause, so the owlbear just hangs out for +2 damage.

If you assume you can hang out at exactly 20 squares to the enemy, but 21 to both companions (why not, it's CharOp!,) switch the proficiency to something for +2 damage another 1.3 DPR(.93KPR)

Human Ranger (Beastmaster)|Sentinel
Theme: Fey Beast Companion (Owlbear)
Feats: Hybrid talent (Beastmastery), Greatbow proficiency
13 Con, 18 Dex, 16 Wis

Sentinel Wolf (w/CA and +2 from owlbear) = +8/1d8+6 = .65*10.5+.05*14 = 6.825 + .7 = 7.525 DPR
Beastmastery Wolf (w/CA and +2 from owlbear) = +6/1d8+4 = .55*8.5+.05*12 = 5.275
Twin Strike w/CA and +2 = (+8/1d12+2)(*2) = 2*(.65*8.5+14*.05)=2*(6.225)= 12.45
Quarry = (1-(1-.6)*(1-.7)*(1-.7))*3.5 = 3.374
=28.6 DPR/.89KPR

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huin said:

First time poster her, but I believe I have a king candidate.

Level 1 human Scout.

Use a double axe

MBA + Dual Weapon attack; every round

Waapon proficiency: double axe; Weapon Focus(axe)

This build assumes combat advantage, via flanking.

Dex (20) +5

To Hit: Dex(5) + Prof(2) + Charge(1) +CA(2) = 10(must roll a 5 to hit) 1-4 = 20% miss chance

Damage: d10 + dex(5) + Spinning axe mastery(2) + aspect of the lurking spider (2) + weapon focus (1) = average 15.5 Crit 20

First attack, .75 chace to hit + .05 to crit second attack .70 to hit, .05 to crit. = (11.625 + 1) + (10.85 + 1) = 24.475 dpr using only melee basic attacks and at wills. obviously this could be increased somewhat for 1 round, using the encounter power.

thoughts?

Edit: changed the weapon and feat to correct for rules.

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gdriddler said:

New DPR lvl 1 Candidate :

Spike, Lvl 1 Human Rogue|Warlock

Class Feature : Sorcerer-King Pact

Background : Gritty Sergeant (Rapier Proficiency, +1 Init)

Theme : Unseelie Agent (Rapier)

Feats : Mindbite Scorn, Surprising Charge

18 (+4) STR, 17 (+3) DEX

Attack bonus (Assuming CH, CA) = +11
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+4 STR, +1 enhancement, +3 proficiency, +1 Charge, +2 CA


Damage = 28, crit= 48.5

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(2*(1+8)/2)+(2*(1+6)/2)+(2*(1+6)/2)+4 STR +1 enhancement


DPR (Assuming CH, CA) = 24.825

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.8(28)+.05(48.5)


And assuming I'm doing the KPR math correctly, it winds up as #1 for lvl 1 with .775 KPR mean


Yes, it relies almost entirely on Ch and Ca cheese to get this high, but I figured that was what this was all about assuming frost cheese and all of the whetstones at higher level is acceptable, hoped this is too.

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lej said:

How do you get +11 attack ?
-- You don't have Spear Expertise.



Missed that I removed Spear Expertise, should of course not be there.



-- Unfettered Fury gives you a -2 to the attack roll.



Unfettered Fury gives -2 to "attack rolls with weapon powers". I did not think Basic Melee Attack was a power but since you mentioned it I read the PBH closer and of course you are correct.

That drops it down to something like 17.95 dpr. Aw well.

Hope these are legit at least:

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Human Slayer
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Level 1 Human Slayer

Class Features and Powers
Level 1: Heroic Slayer
Level 1: Weapon Talent
Level 1: Fighter Stances
*Berserker's Charge

Str(18) +4
Dex(17) +3

Feat: Surprising Charge
Feat: Weapon Proficiency: Gouge

Weapon: Gouge, +2 prof, 2d6, Brutal 1, Axe, Spear [DSCS]

Attack: 4(Str) + 2(prof) + 2(CA) + 1(Charge) + 1(Weapon Talent) + 2(Berserker's Charge) = 12 vs AC (7+12-1)/20 = Miss(1-2) Hit(3-19) Crit(20)
Damage: 2d6b1(Gouge) + 2d6b1(Surprising Charge) + 4(Str) + 3(Heroics Slayer/Dex)= 23
Damage: 12(Gouge) + 12(Surprising Charge) + 4(Str) + 3(Heroics Slayer/Dex) = 31
DPR: 0.10*0 + 0.85*23 + 0.05*31 = 21.1

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Human Thief
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Dex(20) +5

Rogue's Trick: Acrobat's Trick

Background: Gritty Sergeant (Rapier)

Feat: Surprising Charge
Feat: Light Blade Expertise

Attack: 5(Dex) + 3(Prof) + 2(CA) + 1(Charge) + 1(Light Blade Expertise) = 12 vs AC (7+12-1)/20 ) = Miss(1-2) Hit(3-19) Crit(20)
Damage: 1d8(Rapier) + 1d8(Surprising Charge) + 2d6(Sneak Attack) + 5(Dex) + 2(Weapon Finesse) + 2(Acrobat's Trick) + 1(Light Blade Expertise) = 26
Crit: 8(Rapier) + 8(Surprising Charge) + 12(Sneak Attack) + 5(Dex) + 2(Weapon Finesse) + 2(Acrobat's Trick) + 1(Light Blade Expertise) = 38
DPR: 0.10*0 + 0.85*26 + 0.05*38 = 24

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