[3.5] Bard Spell list Changes Summary

Hi all,

Shadowstar was kind enough to modify the current bard spell list to include the changes made in 3.5.

I took his updated spell list, and marked out the differences between it and the 3.0 spell list.

First, the list of additions. Then, the list of spells removed.

Spells added in version 3.5 at each level!

0-LEVEL BARD SPELLS (CANTRIPS)

Know Direction
Lullaby
Message
Summon Instrument

1st-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Animate Rope
Comprehend Languages
Disguise Self
Lesser Confusion
Magic Mouth
Nystul's Magic Aura
Obscure Object
Remove Fear
Tasha's Hideous Laughter
Undetectable Alignment

2nd-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Alter Self
Animal Messenger
Calm Emotions
Eagle's Splendor
Fox's Cunning
Heroism
Rage

3rd-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Crushing Despair
Glibness
Good Hope
Secret Page
See Invisiblity
Slow
Speak with Animals

4th-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Freedom of Movement
Invisibility, Greater
Shadow Conjuration
Speak with Plants
Zone of Silence

5th-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Cure Light Wounds, Mass
Heroism, Greater
Seeming
Shadow Evocation
Shadow Walk
Suggestion, Mass

6th-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Analyze Dweomer
Animate Object
Cat's Grace, Mass
Charm Monster, Mass
Cure Moderate Wounds, Mass
Eagle's Splendor, Mass
Find the Path
Fox's Cunning, Mass
Heroes' Feast
Otto's Irresistible Dance
Shout, Greater
Sympathetic Vibration

Spells removed in version 3.5 at each spell level!

1st-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Mage Armor
Magic Weapon
Protection from Chaos/Evil/Good/Law

2nd-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Daylight
Levitate
Obscure Object
See Invisibility
Hideous Laughter
Undetectable Alignment

3rd-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Bestow Curse
Emotion
Gust of Wind
Keen Edge
Magic Circle against Chaos/Evil/Good/Law
Remove Disease

4th-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Dismissal
Improved Invisibility

5th-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Contact Other Plane
Control Water
Healing Circle

6th-LEVEL BARD SPELLS

Control Weather
Mass Haste
Mass Suggestion
Plane Shift
Repulsion


Looks like a massive boost for bards! Thoughts?

Looking at it, it seems bards are now the masters of emotions and illusions!

Maybe there are subtle differences between the two, but aren't mass cure light wounds and healing circle the same?

Brief look over the spells looks good, but they took out tasha hidious laughter?

Check the list of spells added at first level.

I think it's pretty cool.

I think that Greater Invisibility is the renamed Improved Invisibility. Seems like all the better spells start with Greater-, and all the better feats start with Improved-

I CANNOT believe they took the spell Emotion away from Bards. Splitting it into Good Hope and Crushing Despair, and possibly Calm Emotions and Rage (Bards only know FOUR lvl 3 and lvl 2 spells at level 15) is a BIG mistake IM not so H O. And can you imagine a bard taking speak with animals and speak with plants?

JChung2003 said:

Maybe there are subtle differences between the two, but aren't mass cure light wounds and healing circle the same?

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it looks likely that some spells have just been renamed. Improved invis vs invis, greater are also prolly very similar if not the same. I was thinking the same about mass cure light. SOme spells have also been moved in level, largely for the better from those I checked.

The one thing I'm disapointed in is the removal of mage armor... between that and magic weapon, it seems like the bards (already last place) combat utility has moved down even further. Overall, I'm happy though, esp with more skill points to make the bards fit their niche a little better.

Kahuna Burger

isn't "Greater Magic Weapon" missing too?

ditto on not liking the "emotion" split.

"alter self" is kind of handy. gills, wings, whatever...

-vj

chalcedony said:

I CANNOT believe they took the spell Emotion away from Bards. Splitting it into Good Hope and Crushing Despair (Bards only know FOUR lvl 3 spells at level 15) is a BIG mistake IM not so H O.

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yeah, with the bards limited spell list taking multiuse spells and splitting them up just seems like a bad idea. I may houserul the three stat boosts they have into one spell with a choice of effects for the same reason.

And can you imagine a bard taking speak with animals and speak with plants?

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actually, yes. I've wanted for a while to play a 'private investigator' type bard or bard/ranger multi. Bards should be good at gathering info and those sort of spells definitly fit...

Kahuna Burger

Kahuna Burger said:

The one thing I'm disapointed in is the removal of mage armor...

Kahuna Burger

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No need for Mage Armor any more, just wear a Chain Shirt.