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Disarm rules
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Danceofmasks
First Post
Unconsciousness. Then just take it.
You know, like sleep spell.
You know, like sleep spell.
Saeviomagy
Adventurer
Just visualise "reducing foe to 0 hitpoints and choosing to let him live" as disarming him. Thats the big difference between an MMO and a pen and paper game - you're allowed to use imagination to describe the results however you want.
And really - disarm in 3e was ridiculous.
Incenjucar
Legend
Honestly, my #1 issue with disarming rules?
They make "unarmed" magic boosting items potentially unbalanced.
They make "unarmed" magic boosting items potentially unbalanced.
Disarming is extremely powerful in 4e as it can completely prevent a monster from using many of it's powers. Kind of like silencing a wizard in 3e. I was surprised to see that the fighter power that disarms was even there in the first place, and would not want to see that become at all more common.
OK, you're scaring me here. The advantage of a PnP game over an MMO is not supposed to be having broader options for rationalizing the limitations on your options. The advantage is supposed to be that you can attempt anything your character could reasonably do. That ought to include knocking a weapon out of someone's hands without beating them down to zero hit points.
How so? They incorporated an opposed roll based off the attacker and defender's attack bonuses. Seems like a sensible way to do it IMO--and certainly more sensible than not having rules for it at all.
OK, I believe this is an example of what folks refer to as "gamist thinking", and it's perfect fodder for my old-school gamers, so please don't say it around them.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but what I'm hearing is that you're surprised that there's any form of disarming at all included in the game, even though disarming isn't something magical and arbitrary like a silence spell. It's something an ordinary person can actually do in a fight, but you're content that a character can't attempt it because it'd be too powerful.
Shouldn't the ability of a person to physically do something be enough justification for having rules for doing it?
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I think that in 4e you can still use any of your powers without a weapon or an implement - you just don't get to use any bonuses provided by the weapon or implement (such as the damage die of the weapon and any enhancement bonuses to attack and damage).
generalhenry
First Post
4E is designed to be a successful game.
It borrows a lot of design from the most successful RPG World of Warcraft.
A large part World of Warcraft's success comes from Blizzard's decision to remove 'realism' in favor of making the game fun.
The best example is the removal of exp loss from death.
It borrows a lot of design from the most successful RPG World of Warcraft.
A large part World of Warcraft's success comes from Blizzard's decision to remove 'realism' in favor of making the game fun.
The best example is the removal of exp loss from death.
