Who's on first? (Forked Thread: [WotC_Logan] Why is Tiamat Huge?)

[darjr]

I voted both, cause I can see the breaking of that suspension of disbelief. At the same time I think larger miniatures, while cool and all, as game pieces are a bit ridiculous.

...I think monsters of that size work better as setpieces than as discrete monsters, anyway. Anything you can climb on the back of demands an EPIC multi-tiered challenge, not just "roll...hit...damage...repeat"

And I very heartily agree with this.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

Meh, simply put "I don't care" in this instance, oh my... Tiamat is huge not gargantuan, I cannot change one word. It is really in my eyes a non-issue.

 

[Lord Xtheth]

New from Hasbro: The Tiamat playset! Complete with hoards of treasure!
Open Tiamat up and store the extra peices inside!
Real progectile breathweapons, They can shoot 5 feet!

Some peices sold seperately
Bateries not included
Recomended for ages 6+

 

[justanobody]

New from Hasbro: The Tiamat playset! Complete with hoards of treasure!
Open Tiamat up and store the extra peices inside!
Real progectile breathweapons, They can shoot 5 feet!

Some peices sold seperately
Bateries not included
Recomended for ages 6+

It's the new Voltron sensation! Purchase all five colossal chromatic dragons and combine them into Tiamat!

 

[JackSmithIV]

Oh, it isn't a problem. It is an excuse for people to take a small complaint from a game they don't even play and blow it up into a huge issue so they can complain for the next week about it.

Quoted for EPIC truth. I'll repeat what a previous poster did...

If you do use the minis, Wizards has done you a favor.

If you don't use minis, you can change Tiamat to gargantuan size to very slim mechanical difference.

If you're really offended that Wizards would make the Queen of dragons smaller than another dragon, than the queen of anything should be bigger than it's dominion, right? Always? There's no argument to be made that in a mythological (or even natural) beast, the females are sometimes indeed smaller than the males?

Having a single stat block have a single word that means that a single god is a single square less wide than she should be (which is completely up for debate) in a single module... is not in any way grounds that Wizards is taking precedence for their minis game over the role playing game.

And if they were money-grubbing bastards, they would make her gargantuan and make you buy a new mini. But they didn't. Damn them... I guess.

 

[Fifth Element]

It's the new Voltron sensation! Purchase all five colossal chromatic dragons and combine them into Tiamat!

Don't tease. That sounds awesome.

 

[I'm A Banana]

If you do use the minis, Wizards has done you a favor.

If you don't use minis, you can change Tiamat to gargantuan size to very slim mechanical difference

I'll repeat what I said in the various thread, too:

This isn't a practical question, it's a design philosophy question. Should game design for D&D focus on what is economical for minis to do? I'd say no, but I'm horribly biased because I have an innate urge to vomit whenever I have to push little pieces of plastic around.

It also really does suck that the most powerful dragon in the game isn't also the largest dragon in the game....I mean come the heck on!

I'd prefer a Shadow of the Colossus version of Tiamat (or ANY or ALL of the gods!) than a plastic toy version of Tiamat.

 

[doctorhook]

I voted both, because I could.

I feel that your question is leading. Given the context of the question, it's obvious that the majority of posters will vote for "minis made to suit the game", so what are you expecting your results to show?

I think this poll is just an excuse to make value judgements about a perfectly legitimate and reasonable decision on WotC's part.

(And FWIW, I would've preferred Tiamat to be huge. I still don't approve of blatantly flawed surveys.)

 

[ProfessorCirno]

The Banana pretty much said it best for me. I've never once had minis improve a game, unless it was a board game (Ahhh, I didn't call 4e a board game there, easy now).

Also, how on earth is this poll scewed? In the case of Tiamat, the mini set the precedence for the game. I think that's completely backwards. Others agree. If it's such a simple question, with such an obvious answer, then why is that obvious answer running counter to the decision made in developing the game?

 

[Treebore]

Don't tease. That sounds awesome.

I was thinking the same thing!