Off To War... Recriutment/Discussion

wysiwyg

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I thought of something to play. This is a variant of the monk class that uses one weapon (and one weapon only) to specialize in, instead of unarmed strikes. He loses all of his weapon proficiencies besides for one (of his choice). He gains light armor instead (that can be used in conjunction with AC bonuses). There are a few changes. see the attachment.

I have already included our +2 skill points to the class skills. Otherwise minor wordings have been changed, usually the words "unarmed strike" have been replaced by just plain "strike".

Feedback?
 

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HolyMan

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I forgot intimidate??
That was the whole tough enough to scare a direboar theme I was going for. It's why i need you co-DM (not a three star general but your plastic badge and lifetime supply of caffine is in the mail :D) I am off to work just checking in be back 5-6ish est to go over things and let you know.

Oh and ask WalkingDad about the AC thing I just think he likes his characters running around in leather speedos(just kidding WD)
 

ghostcat

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Take size out of AC area and change to DB

Add +1 to damage with a thrown dagger

Change explorer's outfit to weight 0lb

+5 misc bonus to move silently?

Add spells per day

Could you list what is in your belt pouh/ backpack incase you lose one

have you with 33 gp
eye color?

Changes made as requested.

+5 misc bonus to move silently consists of +2 from Stealty feat and +3 from Cat familiar. I suspect that its the familiar bonus that's confusing, so how would you like it shown?
 


HolyMan

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Changes made as requested.

+5 misc bonus to move silently consists of +2 from Stealty feat and +3 from Cat familiar. I suspect that its the familiar bonus that's confusing, so how would you like it shown?

First off did you check out those pdfs??? Can i pick a co-DM or what? great work wysiwyg and just take your time getting settled in this thread isn't over till the 15lvl megabattle vs. the Treylor happens!!

To ghostcat:
just take and mark the +5 with a * and add this under your skills * +3 bonus from familiar-- there is a distance limit to that right hey help me out co-DM earn that caffine lol
 

HolyMan

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Theroc

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Still haven't gotten a good name for the class, but here's what I've got so far:
(Still no name for it yet)[Base Class Monk]
Swapping Concentration for Bluff, Knowledge: Arcana for Intimidate, Knowledge: Religion for diplomacy

Swapping Still Mind for another 2/2 feat (I'd just say a feat... but still mind really is weak, but since this class isn't based too much around mystical training, resistance to enchantments didn't make much sense)

Swapping Diamond Soul for a Bonus feat (Again, spell resistance doesn't make a ton of sense for a mundane combatant)

Swapping Empty Body for a bonus feat (Becoming ethereal... again... doesn't fit a showfighter without mystical training)

Swapping Ki Strike: Lawful for a bonus feat (This class has no alignment leaning, really.)

One thing I was hoping to change to suit better, was to key this classes AC bonus on Charisma instead of Wisdom(and hopefully stunning fist uses too), the reasoning being that this is more of a 'streetwise' character than one who has learned higher wisdom and such.

Trade Proficiency with Shuriken to proficency with Shortbows(Bows would likely be more useful(than crossbows) for hunting any sort of creature that may steal the families chickens or whatnot, and most farmer's don't see shurikens that much...)

Trade Proficiency with Siangham and nun-chucks for profiency with a great axe (Farmer boy cutting up wood for the family)

Trade proficiency with heavy crossbow and sai for Spiked Chain proficiency(Learned due to it's rarity making it more impressive to wield effectively).

I suppose this sounds like a lot of changes, but I tried to keep it more towards a more mundane(magicwise) theme and such.

Opinions?
 

Deskjob

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Tamor Hunter

Holy Mother of *****!!!

Level1 = 12hp+con, Track, Weapon Focus, Wis AC bonus, High BAB, 2High Save, More points for less class skills, no buying armor needed, and Lv2 Reach w/ shield...

...Ranger be damned!!! We got a winner!!!
(Ahem, on a more somber note... I like it...)
 
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HolyMan

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Co-DM...is that like a 3-star general? Thanks for the promotion. I am only intending to be a secondary arbitrator/advisor, nothing more though.

I have attached the Tamor Hunter as it stands now in a neat format. I still feel that the class is unbalanced, but if you feel that it's not an issue, than it's not - this is your game after all.

Some points to consider about the class:

I think there are too many bonus feats that were given at first level (he has 5!). There is no reason to give him so many. The ranger only had 3 abilities at this level. I think weapon focus & skill focus (intimidate) are redunctant extras that he can pay from his normal 1st level feats.

Also, I noticed that intimidation is something built into the class, even though it's not in the ranger's class skill list. I added intimidation at the cost of: ride, swim (it's a mountainous region that they come from) & handle animal (since mountainous people usually do not have much livestock to look after - unless they look after tamors :lol:).

Is there a reason he needs the monk's AC bonus? The monk has it because of his kung-fu training - I doubt the T/H have that kind of skill. Why can just they not wear light armor instead?

Favourite enemy must, I repeat must stay: The tamor's themselves! The whole class is named after this creature, for heaven's sake!! It might be that it's not the greatest class ability, but that's no reason to discard it, especially for the TAMOR HUNTERS.

Let me know how you feel, and whether I should redraft the attachment.

On a different note: I am actually in the process of immigrating. I am leaving SA on the 4th of July. I am hoping to have a phone line up and running sometimes between 7th-10th July. Instead of having a hiccup in my playing session, my PC (that I have not yet thought of) should maybe only be introduced after I am settled in. This way we won't have our first AWOL before the game even started.


Those other feats came from limiting his weapon selection i think that's what I did yeah i'm sure (lose almost all martial weapons gain focus in a weapon I thought that was fair). I have not saved Tamor hunter yet think you could give them back swim(there are lakes its not rugged mountains kinda like the eastern US mountains were i live) but the rest is great

To Walking DAD: Tamor hunter was just a sample of what you could do. You can prepose anything. It was the combat style that got me to base the new class off of ranger but nothing set in stone yet.
 

Myth and Legend

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HolyMan if you are allowing such drastic changes to base classes why not allow other sources? I want to play a fighter/mage but going Wizard-Eldritch Knight is not the best choice. If you allow Complete Arcane, Complete Mage, Complete Warrior, Unearthed Arcana etc. i could pick better classes.
 

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