D&D 5E Oh Hai Katana!

Salamandyr

Adventurer
Even more mundane sword & sorcery heroes like Conan and Fafhrd regularly shear through iron helmets and mail coats, with either Acquilonian broadswords and Greywand respectively, lopping armored limbs off as they please.
 
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Daggerswan

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Scimitars were used in Spain. That's about as far West as you can go before falling off the edge of the world. :)

It seems reasonable to me that a European-style setting would be common. It also seems reasonable to me to have Moors in a European setting. It does not seem reasonable to me to be in a European setting, walk into a shop, and buy a katana off the rack.

I have no problems with the katana being normal in an Oriental Adventures setting.
 

Salamandyr

Adventurer
a) the form and function of the katana is not really unique to Japan, the Gross Messer I mentioned earlier is very similar to the katana, and is European, but the name "katana" is more well known.

b) the scimitar may have been used in Europe, but is Middle Eastern in origin, and the name is derived from that. The name evokes Arabian nights, while the more Western name "saber" is more evocative of Europe.

c) Marco Polo visited China around 1300. In the 1400's European ships were travelling regularly to the Far East. Europeans and Japanese met at those times. Portuguese traders stopped at Japanese ports. The katana may not have been widespread, but there's no reason that one couldn't have shown up in Europe. Japan was largely an isolationist culture, but in an alternate universe, like in most fantasy campaigns, that same culture might be expansionist, and thus their gear, would spread.

d) The katana may be evocative of Japan and "oriental" adventures, but the same can be said of the scimitar, and you have no problem with them showing up.

And again, the katana isn't all that unique anyway (I regularly refer to it as a badly balanced, overly short, two handed saber), but is a much more well known name than messer, or yatagan (which, for the record, curve the other way).

My main beef is the katana isn't really special enough to deserve its own weapon entry. the Longsword, or scimitar entry covers it just fine.
 
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Salamandyr

Adventurer
Aside from the scimitar, there's the kukri, the khopesh, the katar (what's with all the "K"'s), all of which have basically nothing to do with "Europe" yet whose inclusion does not seem to provoke nearly the amount of ire that the katana does.
 

Daggerswan

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So in my campaign we can call it a saber. Thanks for the idea, I like it.

In your campaign where Japan expands and conquers France...or Marco Polo sets up a chain of shops where he sells goods shipped from Kyoto...you can call it katana. And I have the perfect name for your campaign. Oriental Adventures! :)
 

Daggerswan

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If it will make you feel any better, I am equally opposed to the kukri. The khopesh is Egyptian so I have no problems with it, but I didn't think it was in the playtest. What the hell is a katar? Are you making stuff up?

Back in my 2E days in the Army, I knew a guy from St Charles who played rangers that dual-wielded katanas. Is that you Brian? Quit messing around.
 


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