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Jeremy E Grenemyer

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See, I'm beginning to think that the problem here is that you have been treating your personal circumstance as three isolated incidents (Wizards, ENW, CM), but in actuality you have been talking to the same people over and over again (snip).
in my case that would be true, as I post as Mr_Miscellany on the WotC forums, though nothing posted so far has surprised me except for Goldo apologizing and promising to behave in another thread.

It's been interesting to watch the transition. I hope that EN World brings out the best in the OTTers, because this site will be better for it.
 


this might seem trivial, but somebody asked me to stop using the term Wallet Rape on here, and I did, even though I didn't like it.
Okay, I’m curious, and I have to ask – what is wallet rape?
Another rule of thumb is to leave bad arguments in their respective threads. I can disagree strongly with Umbran in one thread, while agreeing with him in another. Treat each thread (as best you can) like Las Vegas. that gets hard at times, especially when one thread seems related to another. If you've only got a negative point to bring in from the other thread, leave it behind or you'll bring the bad taste with it.
You know, this is good advice, but it seems that not all of you are on the same page, and some of you are giving confusing information. For example, Jonsey:
I am repeating myself somewhat, but this should be made clear: many of the people there are people here. Many of the people here are people there. Usually with different screen names. The two places are different with a different mood and a different etiquette, but there is overlap between who the people you are talking to are. When someone here is offended (or even when someone at the Wizards boards is offended, since there is some overlap there as well) there is a chance it's also someone there.

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See, I'm beginning to think that the problem here is that you have been treating your personal circumstance as three isolated incidents (Wizards, ENW, CM), but in actuality you have been talking to the same people over and over again without realizing it and the whole thing has kept escalating.
Seems like you guys want us to leave the feelings and topics of each thread in that particular thread, but when it comes to your own behavior, it appears as if it is fine for you guys to drag how you feel on one site to another. That doesn’t seem fair to any future member, OTTers, or not.
Recognize expertise when it appears. We have subject matter experts on here. We have know-it-alls who actually do know a lot (I am one, but Umbran always knows more than me). Everybody knows stuff, but experts really do know more. Once an expert starts spouting their technobabble in the correct syntax, stop arguing with them about the quality of their facts. It just ain't worth it, and honestly, they are usually right. And by correct syntax, I mean they are talking like an expert in that subject would talk. Once Danny the lawyer starts talking like a lawyer, assume what he's saying is correct enough for forum discussion purposes and move on to other points. I know it can feel like losing a few ego points as if you're giving in to them, but the reality is an expert knows his material better, and the point should be learning what they know to shape your future dealings, not arguing them down.
You know, I think that is good advice for everyone, not just OTTers. Because as Goldomark pointed out, we have our own experts on various topics.
That's a lot of words. If they are helpful, great. If you think I'm picking on you, I apologize as that was not my intent.
I don’t think anyone took it as you picking on them. We tend to have pretty thick skins.
If you think some other people don't follow them, well that's on them, not you.
That’s well and good, and it really would bother us if it wasn’t because the ones that do it are also reporting us for the same things they do.
 




jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
Seems like you guys want us to leave the feelings and topics of each thread in that particular thread, but when it comes to your own behavior, it appears as if it is fine for you guys to drag how you feel on one site to another. That doesn’t seem fair to any future member, OTTers, or not.
That is the opposite of what I said. I meant that when people are offended in one place one shouldn't take it for granted that moving to another or another one would not have to deal with the consequences of those people's feelings who occupy more than one place. The internet isn't a series of isolated cubicles with no information traffic between them, quite the opposite and sometimes the same people.
 

That is the opposite of what I said. I meant that when people are offended in one place one shouldn't take it for granted that moving to another or another one would not have to deal with the consequences of those people's feelings who occupy more than one place. The internet isn't a series of isolated cubicles with no information traffic between them, quite the opposite and sometimes the same people.
I know it's the opposite of what you said. What you said is pretty much the opposite of what Janx said. Which is what I said. If I said derp sarcastically, would you take it the wrong way?
 

jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
I know it's the opposite of what you said. What you said is pretty much the opposite of what Janx said. Which is what I said. If I said derp sarcastically, would you take it the wrong way?
No. What you said is the opposite of what I said. You quoted me as saying the opposite of what I said and then used it to say I was saying something opposite of Janx, when what I was saying was parallel to it. A different subject. Perspective. Type mismatch.

I don't what derp means non-sarcastically, so I can't even parse that.
 

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