D&D 5E Inappropriate breasts on female monsters

Janx

Hero
so, would you be ok with it effecting male characters removing charactristics that men identify with in the real world?


edit: and if someone doesn't understand how a woman would consider breasts a major part of there self identity look up what happens with breast cancer and when you need to have them removed...

I think I get where a woman is coming from for wanting breasts on these critters, and the ironic thing is, the probably reason folks are objecting to breasts on dragonborn is that they are trying to avoid offending women by NOT sexifying them up with breasts.

So, catch-22. guys are jerks for putting boobs on everything because boobs are nice to look at. Guys are insensitive for trying NOT to put boobs on everything because they didn't want to be offensive to women.
 

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Werebat

Explorer
The "half-human" or human-descended hybrid types don't bother me at all -- gynosphynxes, for example, or even dragonborn. But lizardfolk with boobs are just silly IMO, as would be kenku or grippli with boobs. Don't get me wrong, I love boobs, but to me, races that seem meant to represent the evolutionary "uplifting" of non-mammalian creatures should not have mammaries (and most MAMMALS don't really have breasts, either -- so breasts on skaven/ratfolk, for example, would seem kind of silly to me as well).

Really, though, I try to tailor my "opinion" to match whatever I think will be most likely to get me in the sack with any nearby ladies. So I'll rail against breasts on fantasy art if I think that'll get me "in" with the ladies, but I'd also argue in favor of them if I thought THAT would net me more play. Ladies, help me out here -- what should I claim to believe?
 

Werebat

Explorer
By the way, in all seriousness, I'm all in favor of body features on non-human races that are intended to serve the general PURPOSE of human breasts (mate attraction). For example, ornate and brightly colored head crests on lizardmen (where perhaps the males are the ones who have to bear the attracting parts). One could imagine dinosaur-like aliens being mildly curious about human breasts but absolutely SWOONING and obsessing over the big, red HEAD CREST on that male of their own species who just walked by...
 

Hussar

Legend
The "half-human" or human-descended hybrid types don't bother me at all -- gynosphynxes, for example, or even dragonborn. But lizardfolk with boobs are just silly IMO, as would be kenku or grippli with boobs. Don't get me wrong, I love boobs, but to me, races that seem meant to represent the evolutionary "uplifting" of non-mammalian creatures should not have mammaries (and most MAMMALS don't really have breasts, either -- so breasts on skaven/ratfolk, for example, would seem kind of silly to me as well).

Really, though, I try to tailor my "opinion" to match whatever I think will be most likely to get me in the sack with any nearby ladies. So I'll rail against breasts on fantasy art if I think that'll get me "in" with the ladies, but I'd also argue in favor of them if I thought THAT would net me more play. Ladies, help me out here -- what should I claim to believe?

Funnily enough, I looked at the PFSRD for Grippli (a race i really like and find this image:

griipli%20cleric%20color_Ryan%20Rhodes.jpg


Now, those are pectorals on that grippli. Would a fat grippli not have boobs? How much of a stretch is it, since you have a humanoid torso, to have boobs?
 

S

Sunseeker

Guest
To address your specific examples, I think you're ignoring simplicity in favor of a realism that was never implied.
Dragonborn are either created or bred. They're humanoid in appearance for the same reason half-dragons are humanoid, because at some point a dragon bred with a humanoid (there are so many) or because dragons created them to be envoys between dragons and humanoids. There is no lore that supports the claim that dragonborn are reptilian except that they lay eggs. They are not cold blooded. They're kinda a platapus.

Minotaurs come from lore where a woman got jiggy with Zeus while he was disguised as a bull. So we've basically got another case of "magical creature breeds with a human" so there's no reason why minotaurs should have udders any more than why they should have breasts.

Shardminds are fragments of some sort of magic thing that take on a humanoid appearance. They likely take on said appearance after at some point, encountering humanoids. Also: this is another case of magical creature "breeds" with a humanoid. Whatever the case may be, Shardminds are shaped avatars for a conciousness. They don't have functional breasts any more than they have muscles. They appear the way they do because that's how their conciousness chose to manifest.

You have demonstrated no logical reason why any of these presentations are incorrect. You've even contradicted traditional depictions with the minotaur which is clearly depicted in greek art as having nipples. (though as far as I'm aware the minotaur is only ever a singular entity and always male).
 

Hussar

Legend
If you feel like going blind Google "sexy Minotaur". One player has a minotaur bard who is definitely playing against type.
 


Hussar

Legend
I'm looking at that picture and that torso looks pretty humanoid to me. Complete with pectorals.

And why would a frog be a reptile anyway? They're not reptiles, they're amphibians.
 



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