Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Do you propose resolving a player's action declaration to have his or her PC go to sleep by calling for a CON check in which s/he has to roll under the DC in order to stay asleep successfully in the case of a disturbance? I don't see how this has anything to do with CON as a measure of endurance or health, or why a character's CON score would have anything to do with how deeply they sleep. The reasoning behind resolving an action declaration to go without sleep with a CON check is that the character is resisting fatigue and the urge to sleep through his or her physical endurance. Once asleep, I think CON ceases to play a roll. A low CON doesn't keep you asleep.
Why would I call for a check for something where the outcome isn't in doubt. Just like I don't call for a roll to wake up on a normal morning. Only when the outcome is in doubt, like when something unusual is happening and I need to know if a PC wakes up will I call for a roll.
While you may think that CON being used doesn't make sense, I and others disagree with that. For decades CON checks have been used by pretty much every DM I've played with and not one player in those groups has ever had an issue with it. I doubt we're alone in this.
The awareness is still there, you just didn't roll well enough to wake up.That's if you wake up. If you hadn't woken up, you wouldn't have known about the barking dog, yet you're asking a player to roll an ability check to see if the barking dog wakes his or her PC up. That's very clunky if you ask me.
That's incorrect. The DM decides what things require ability checks and which abilities are to be used, so the game does in fact provide rules for waking up via ability checks.Then the only way to wake up in the game is by DM fiat, which is how I do it. (Excepting, of course, the ways of awakening someone given in the sleep spell.)
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