Discovery Trailer

Ryujin

Legend
Right. But it's always the TV show referencing the movies. Like when DS9 changed over uniforms to match the new Trek movie uniforms from First Contact.
Because the movie is filmed a year before it airs over the course of three or four months, while a TV show is filmed over four days a few months before it airs. So SHIlELD can reference and act as a prequel to Avengers or Captain America since those movies are in the can and just going through final FX and the TV shows can write around them.

Doing the reverse - tying a movie into a TV show - is super hard. When Insurrection was released in December '98 but production work began (sets, FX, etc) at the start of the year. While scripting occurs in mid-1997.
So the movie was written halfway through season 6 of DS9 and aired halfway through season 7. That's a long time to ask the TV show to think ahead.
"Hey, I know you're busy planning the second half of the season... but you could also plan all of next season at the same time so a movie can happen?"

I mentioned "Agents of Shield" because it both foreshadowed AND followed the movies, though it is most certainly the exception.
 

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I mentioned "Agents of Shield" because it both foreshadowed AND followed the movies, though it is most certainly the exception.

But I think the only thing from Agents of SHIELD to make it into any of the movies was the prison that appeared in season one that reappeared in Civil War.

And other than Thor 2, Cap2, and Avengers 2 I don't think there's been many crossovers. Nothing recent anyway. Civil War barely got a mention, and the Sokovia Accords have at best been a footnote through much of this season.
 

I'm not sure I'd want to see a post-Voyager show. I feel like the tech upgrades would make it no longer feel like Star Trek. Star Trek always had this slightly ponderous (in a good way) old fashioned naval feel to it.


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I don't know, the VOY tech upgrade might be impressive in-universe, but on screen - in the end, big ships fire torpedoes and energy weapons. They can still beam around, they can still fly faster than light. They still have easy ways to time travel they usually forget exist until the plot demands them.

But I am more interested in something set after Deep Space Nine then Voyager, in regards to dealing with the aftermath of the Dominion War. Seeing the impact of the war and how people rebuild could be interesting. Of course, if you want your sense of exploration back, that's not the right step. For that, I would suggest sending a ship into a new galaxy. You can still have Romulans or Klingons if you must have them (be it as members of the crew, part of a small exploration fleet, or as competing explorers), but you can introduce new aliens and deal with new challenges.

Or you can just reimainge it all. Clean up the timeline, start with Archer, Kirk or someone new.



But as long as they're not doing that; I am happy to give Discovery a try.
 

Water Bob

Adventurer
Well, if the post art is any indication, it does look like the Discovery is going to remain very similar to what we saw in the first trailer--the ship design that makes me throw up.

It does look like the saucer section is wider, which is good, and the triangle shaped secondary hull is not as wide, which is also good. But, that's about all you can tell.

I like everything I've seen about this new version of Star Trek except the uniforms, which suck the high heavens, and the design of the Discovery.

Of course, I hated those same two things with TNG, and I ended up loving that show. Hopefully, history will repeat itself.

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Water Bob

Adventurer
Is is me, or do the uniforms in Discovery look like something you'd expect to see in a comedy.

From, The Orville, a new Seth McFarland comedy series due out this fall.

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From Galaxy Quest...

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And, from Discovery...

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Water Bob

Adventurer
I'm interested in uniforms. They've always intrigued me.

If you want to see the new ranking and Department system used in discovery, then CLICK HERE.

As you can see above, the uniforms are basically a bright blue. Department is denoted by the chrome and silver piping on the shoulders and under the arms.

Rank is still shown in pips, as was first seen in Star Trek The Next Generation. What is strange is that the rank pips are very small, inside the Star Fleet symbol on the chest. The captain is easy to make out since she has more gold piping on her shoulders. But, for everybody else, seeing rank is quite hard and cannot be done from a distance.
 



Ryujin

Legend
I'm interested in uniforms. They've always intrigued me.

If you want to see the new ranking and Department system used in discovery, then CLICK HERE.

As you can see above, the uniforms are basically a bright blue. Department is denoted by the chrome and silver piping on the shoulders and under the arms.

Rank is still shown in pips, as was first seen in Star Trek The Next Generation. What is strange is that the rank pips are very small, inside the Star Fleet symbol on the chest. The captain is easy to make out since she has more gold piping on her shoulders. But, for everybody else, seeing rank is quite hard and cannot be done from a distance.

And more little things which irk me. Again we see the Enterprise insignia used for a ship that is not her, in a timeline when ships should be carrying their own insignia plate shapes. The only reason to have subdued rank insignia is in an active combat zone, in which officers might be targeted by snipers or other long-range attacks. This isn't an issue on shipboard and rank should be clear. In TOS it was handled by piping on the sleeve. Sleeve piping or shoulder bards are traditional naval methods of showing rank and would logically be extended to an organization like Star Fleet. So they have incorporated something that vaguely looks like shoulder boards, but they don't seem to serve any purpose?

Yeah, maybe I'm just looking for reasons not to like it, but these little things just pile up along with the bigger issues that are already bugging me.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I definitely prefer it when the different departments wear different colours.

Unless it's the TOS movies where they all wear those red things. By far my favourite Trek uniform.
 

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