A shield is not used like a mace either. So I don’t know what your going on about
So you don't use both as a weapon by slamming a sharp edge into someone?
A shield is not used like a mace either. So I don’t know what your going on about
So you don't use both as a weapon by slamming a sharp edge into someone?
You usually slam the head of the mace into someone. You usually slam the edge of the shield into someone. It’s a different arm motion to attack with them. The only thing similar is the force.
I was discussing to figure out where the ruling for >1d4 shield attacks came from. Turns out it’s a house rule which is fine. Some of my favorite rules are house rules. But the reason this was important was because the justification was dressing up the house rule to make it almost seem like it was a ruling from the rules instead of a house rule.
Now that we have crossed this bridge I don’t mine to discuss the >1d4 shield attack house rule.
Huh. "These two things deliver a similar force" seems like the ultimate argument in favor of them dealing the same damage. It's weird that you're dismissing this resemblence as insignificant.
This is an excellent argument for treating a club as an improvised mace and giving it a 1d6 damage die.
I laughed cause I thought you were joking. If you were seriously trying to counter me, I'll point out that somewhere in the posts above, someone explained how a mace was essentially a club improved to deliver it's force more effectively. Using that explanation, a club not improved in this way does not resemble a mace in the force it delivers.