I find this response rather...strange.
No, I'm most certainly not claiming "you must role-play it that way." The exact opposite, in fact.
No, you're claiming that other people are claiming this and you're the only one saying it. Which is what I meant. I guess I should have been clearer. IOW, you're the one who is apparently putting words in people's mouths, which...
Now, I thought the poster to whom I was responding had said something along those lines, although his next post suggested otherwise, so I may very well be mistaken.
apparently, you have now realized and have retracted. Good, that gets somewhere.
The "lots of people" to whom I was referring was on a topic that for the most part has nothing to do with this thread. It was a reference to the general player agency question, not the specific application being discussed here.
Now, not being a mind reader, how was I supposed to know that. Considering you just took me to task for not being clearer, complaining that I didn't understand your meaning when you were unclear isn't terribly productive.
So that's two utter misapprehensions in one short post. If I didn't think of you as a perfectly reasonable and emotionally stable guy I might suspect that you're still seething about the exchange in the other thread and are just trying to find reasons to contradict me. Glad I don't have to wonder about that.
Nope. Other thread was annoying, to be sure, but, nope. I was unclear in my first point and you were unclear in yours. Perhaps we could both be clearer in making our points.
Unfortunately, that's false. (And I'm not even including the case that the NPC is not lying...I assume that's an error of omission, not logic, on your part.) Even using your version of "skill checks" this one is easy to disprove:
"Vinny the Snake says he wasn't anywhere near the place."
"I roll Insight."
"His true intention is to mislead you."
Q.E.F.D.
Ok, now that's just being petty. The obvious implication here is that the NPC is, in fact, attempting to deceive. Cheese weaseling, "his true intention is to mislead you" is, again the same meaning as "you think he's lying".
Yeah, bowing out again. This sort of pedantic babble is just too frustrating and the cherry blossoms are out.