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D&D 5E What Level 20 Class Would Win?

Which Class Would Win?


S'mon

Legend
If there is no precasting or pre-wildshaping, it probably comes down to who wins init and how far apart they are. A class with enough spike damage to kill enemy in 1 turn would be good.
 

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S'mon

Legend
Banishment - I think I'm going to house rule that if a non-native Banishes themselves, they don't return when the spell ends. So you can use it to get home but not to pop in & out.
 

FarBeyondC

Explorer
Bard or Wizard, leaning towards Wizard.

Having access to both True Polymorph and Wish means everyone else may as well stay home.
 


pming

Legend
Hiya!

You're only incapacitated if you are a native of the current plane. It's much better to be a native of a different plane for these kind of competitions. Gith, Eladrin, Genasi, or just some dude from Sigil, etc.

Gith, Eladrin, Genasi or "some dude from Sigil" are not part of the core rules...they are additions via optional books. So I wasn't considering any of them.

But, that said...I still don't see how you disappearing from a fight where the first one unable to fight looses. If I was DM'ing that fight, I'd rule the guy who just Banished himself forfeited the match and ran away...which is exactly what they did. They left the battle field. ;)

^_^

Paul L. Ming
 

A Diviner with a low roll stocked up basically wins any one-on-one fight for free, no?

"I make my save!"
"No, you don't."

Sure. If they get to put off the fight until the day they feel up to it they're a shoe in. But then I think their opponent might not be feeling it on the days the Divination Wizard is enthusiastic about fighting.
 
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FarBeyondC

Explorer
Sure. If they get to put off the fight until the day they feel up to it they're a shoe in.

Which is why I'd personally rather have the Chronurgy Wizard's Convergent Future for this fight. Sure, it's a reaction to use it, and sure, it gives you a level of exhaustion when you use it, but that's what your simulacrum's for (if you so choose to use it for that instead of any of a number of other things).
 


FarBeyondC

Explorer
Hiya!

Personally, I went with Cleric. Being able to say "Odin, I need serious help here"...and having Odin hear and actually DO something to seriously help you is pretty much an "I win" button in this fictitious white-room scenario. Whatever/Whoever is your opponent is roughly equal in power to you (the cleric), is prepared with the specific intention of killing you. Pretty sure most Deities don't want their most honoured and faithful priests to get killed in a round or two...that's just bad PR all around! (As a meta-game...the Deity in question is the Dungeon Master; the Cleric just asked the DM to help him win... ;) ).

^_^

Paul L. Ming

What if the opponent is also a devout worshipper of Odin? Would it not also be bad PR for Odin to interfere on behalf of one of his worshippers to oppose another?

Otherwise, yeah, nothing really beats a sufficiently successful Divine Intervention, except for being made unable to use it (i.e. winning initiative and having a way to stop the action).
 

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