Joss Whedon Allegations: The Undoing of the "Buffy" Creator

[Ryujin]

Oh, come on. Any time we have a sentence of the form, "Not that this means X, but...," the effect is to press X.

Folks on the set could not leave Whedon alone with an underage female cast member, for fear of the abuse he'd put upon her. Whatever "legitimate complaints" he had are irrelevant in comparison to that.

Agreed. It smacks of victim blaming.

 

[Umbran]

But somebody gets paid residuals on DVD sales besides Whedon.

Typically writers, directors, and actors get residuals. Tech crew and such don't.

 

[MGibster]

How about his mockery of her religious beliefs...?

What about it? I don’t recall excusing Whedon’s behavior. The man has exhibited toxic behavior according to multiple witnesses.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

good point. probably bad example. But somebody gets paid residuals on DVD sales besides Whedon.

My point is, not everybody approves of drone strikes because of the collateral damage.

Crapping on people for being concerned about that isn't a good look.

No one got crapped on. Stop trying to make it into something it isn’t.

 

[CleverNickName]

Getting kind of tired of all the "he's only human" talk in my social media circle. "This is what happens when you put people on a pedestal, Joss Whedon is just a human being," they will say. I'm quick to remind them that the problem isn't Joss Whedon being human. The problem is that Joss Whedon is an abusive, cruel human.

 

[Jer]

Getting kind of tired of all the "he's only human" talk in my social media circle. "This is what happens when you put people on a pedestal, Joss Whedon is just a human being," they will say. I'm quick to remind them that the problem isn't Joss Whedon being human. The problem is that Joss Whedon is an abusive, cruel human.

Right. There might be some truth to the idea that we shouldn't be so quick to put people up on pedestals, but that's separate from the fact that Whedon treats other people like garbage and doesn't seem to understand what's wrong with that. Too many folks in my own social circle are ready to jump on the former in order to dismiss the latter for reasons I don't quite get.

(I also get annoyed by friends who are like "well I never liked his stuff anyway". That also isn't really the point.)

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Getting kind of tired of all the "he's only human" talk in my social media circle. "This is what happens when you put people on a pedestal, Joss Whedon is just a human being," they will say. I'm quick to remind them that the problem isn't Joss Whedon being human. The problem is that Joss Whedon is an abusive, cruel human.

Seriously. This isn't a case of behavior that was ever broadly considered normal and fun that people have had to unlearn the normalization of, the guy is an abusive bully. The normal opinion of such dudes has been very negative since before Whedon was born.

"He's only human" is an important point in the case of childhood bullies, as there are ways to help a kid stop being that person and not grow up into an even worse person.

This is a grown man who couldn't be trusted to be in a room alone with a teenager who he had power over.

 

[Bolares]

Is "He's only human" the new "boys will be boys"?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Is "He's only human" the new "boys will be boys"?

HEY!

YOU! Yeah, you Bolares.

Don't you DARE drag Dua Lipa into this mess. All she does is make straight bangers. Pure fire.

She doesn't need to be pulled into this mess.

 

[Bolares]

HEY!

YOU! Yeah, you Bolares.

Don't you DARE drag Dua Lipa into this mess. All she does is make straight bangers. Pure fire.

She doesn't need to be pulled into this mess.

Defending a bard Snarf?