Moon Knight - SPOILERS

[MarkB]

The question I have is: did the gods die or just their avatars? Was it a similar situation to killing Ammit by killing Harrow while she's inside him?

Just their avatars. Unlike Ammit, the other gods weren't sealed away inside their mortal avatars.

 

[Ryujin]

The question I have is: did the gods die or just their avatars? Was it a similar situation to killing Ammit by killing Harrow while she's inside him?

(As an aside, when Layla was searching for Khonshu's ushabti, I was thinking "She should just smash them all! Release all the gods and cause a whole lot of chaos!")

They had to effectively lock Ammit into Harrow's body before they would be able to kill her. I don't think that the avatars deaths would result in the deaths of the gods they represent, any more than killing Moon Knight would result in the death of Khonshu.

 

[RuinousPowers]

So, Ammit was cool, and surprisingly honest about everything. Didn't seem to be any underhanded interpretations. That was...unexpected. Khonshu's talk about freewill is kinda moot if Ammit can 100% know if someone is going to do evil. I figured there would be a "people can change their fate" or "see, you were wrong" moment, and there wasn't.

I didn't like the asylum stuff. I liked it less after the character(s) figured out it wasn't real, and I'm just confused why we went back there in the last episode.

 

[Ryujin]

So, Ammit was cool, and surprisingly honest about everything. Didn't seem to be any underhanded interpretations. That was...unexpected. Khonshu's talk about freewill is kinda moot if Ammit can 100% know if someone is going to do evil. I figured there would be a "people can change their fate" or "see, you were wrong" moment, and there wasn't.

I didn't like the asylum stuff. I liked it less after the character(s) figured out it wasn't real, and I'm just confused why we went back there in the last episode.

But can she, really? And what is the criteria for being worthy, in Ammit's eyes? Is it based on 4000 year old Egyptian theology? I think that there would be an awful lot of people, these days, who would fall through the cracks on that.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Um, maybe read the whole sentence?



its referring to amateur Egyptology geeks, of which there are a lot…

Are there, though?
Seriously, you're overestimating the commonality of the knowledge in question, and the show is very clearly setting the character up to be an expert.

 

[Rabulias]

(As an aside, when Layla was searching for Khonshu's ushabti, I was thinking "She should just smash them all! Release all the gods and cause a whole lot of chaos!")

Without knowing how and why the various gods were locked away, this would be a very risky move. Some may be worse than Ammit. Others may want to be locked away and respond poorly to being released ("Why did you awaken me, mortal insect?").

 

[pukunui]

Without knowing how and why the various gods were locked away, this would be a very risky move. Some may be worse than Ammit. Others may want to be locked away and respond poorly to being released ("Why did you awaken me, mortal insect?").

Oh, I get that. For sure. It just was a passing thought.

 

[Umbran]

The question I have is: did the gods die or just their avatars? Was it a similar situation to killing Ammit by killing Harrow while she's inside him?

Unlikely.

(As an aside, when Layla was searching for Khonshu's ushabti, I was thinking "She should just smash them all! Release all the gods and cause a whole lot of chaos!")

Her opinion of the gods... isn't spectacular, though.

While "Jake Lockley" isn't a very Spanish name, I'm guessing that, like Steven, this persona is modeled on a movie character or something. I still think Jake is the part of Marc that has internalized all his mother's violence.

In the comics, Jake Lockley is a personality who is cab driver, and does a lot of street-level information gathering and investigation for Moon Knight. He isn't hyper-violent, though.

In this, I don't think he just "internalized" his mother's violence. I think he was the one who experienced most of it, taking the driver's seat while she was beating him.

I also don't see how Marc could balance his heart while Jake was still locked away inside.

If I am correct, he cannot be balanced while Jake is out and around - Jake is not healthy.

I'll call that a bit of a plot hole, like how he created Steven to shield himself from his mother's violence and yet Marc is the one who remembers it, not Steven.

I don't think he created Steven to "shield" himself from the violence. He used Steven to forget his mother's violence. Steven was unaware of it. Steven is where he goes to have a normal life unburdened by the trauma. I think Jake was the shield that took the actual hits.

 

[RuinousPowers]

But can she, really? And what is the criteria for being worthy, in Ammit's eyes? Is it based on 4000 year old Egyptian theology? I think that there would be an awful lot of people, these days, who would fall through the cracks on that.

That's the kind of stuff I was waiting for, but instead we get "we know they are going to commit the evil, but we have to wait until they do it to punish them". We never hear that Ammit's judgment is wrong, only that it's prophylactic instead of retribution.

 

[Blue]

So, Ammit was cool, and surprisingly honest about everything. Didn't seem to be any underhanded interpretations.

Sure, she was honest. But she also chose an unbalanced avatar when even Harrow knew he should be put to death and a balanced one picked.

That was...unexpected. Khonshu's talk about freewill is kinda moot if Ammit can 100% know if someone is going to do evil. I figured there would be a "people can change their fate" or "see, you were wrong" moment, and there wasn't.

Yeah, it's hard to have both free will and predestination. I agree that I expected more of a philosophical battle there since they can't both be right.