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Obi-Wan Kenobi (spoilers)

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Of course, we're missing the point that Obi is letting a murderer, who will keep killing, live. He knows he'll keep killing. He not only lets him live, he doesn't take his life support, and put him in jail, or something. Anything to keep him from killing and killing. He just walks away and let's him keep killing

We would have vastly preferred that they not fight a second time, and Vader would have won.
No. He had to fight Vader and kick Vader hard or Vader's line in Star Wars, "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner. Now, I am the master." would not have made sense. What they should have done, though, is bring in the Inquisitors or some other overwhelming force that would have made Obi-Wan run and have to leave Vader alive.
 

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Ryujin

Legend
Of course, we're missing the point that Obi is letting a murderer, who will keep killing, live. He knows he'll keep killing. He not only lets him live, he doesn't take his life support, and put him in jail, or something. Anything to keep him from killing and killing. He just walks away and let's him keep killing

We would have vastly preferred that they not fight a second time, and Vader would have won.
It's an old school morality play. The evil guys have to be really evil and the good guys have to be squeaky-clean. White Hats only, non Grey. If Vader was killed with one stroke, that's one thing. Killing him when he's helpless is quite another.
 

Zaukrie

New Publisher
It's an old school morality play. The evil guys have to be really evil and the good guys have to be squeaky-clean. White Hats only, non Grey. If Vader was killed with one stroke, that's one thing. Killing him when he's helpless is quite another.
How is letting him walk away to keep killing a good act?
 

No. He had to fight Vader and kick Vader hard or Vader's line in Star Wars, "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner. Now, I am the master." would not have made sense. What they should have done, though, is bring in the Inquisitors or some other overwhelming force that would have made Obi-Wan run and have to leave Vader alive.
It still doesn't really make as much sense as them just not meeting at all between RotS and ANH.

Since nothing Vader said actually implies that they fought at all, just that they are meeting again after he fell to the Dark Side.

So much has been retconned and added to over they years that all the original dialog doesn't make a whole lot of sense anymore, unless everyone is just lying all the time.
 


Stalker0

Legend
How is letting him walk away to keep killing a good act?
So something we have to remember....a Jedi's morality is not the same as standard human morality. Remember that these people wield powers normal humans can only dream of, and they literally have this "voice" in their head that seems to whisper its will to them. They get visions of crazy possible futures, etc etc. Aka there is nothing "normal" about being a force user.

It comes down to...killing a defenseless person leads to the dark side. Why does it....well why is water wet? That is apparently how the force works, you just learn to accept that just like you learn to accept gravity. I'm sure Jedi would prefer it didn't, it would make certain things so much easier....but thems the brakes.
 

Zaukrie

New Publisher
Because, like I said, it's an old school morality play. Doing an evil act, for a good outcome, isn't considered good.
That's assuming killing evil is an evil act . Is it? Or, trying to imprison him (admitting I have no idea how that works in star wars, but in theory is an option).
 

Zaukrie

New Publisher
That's assuming killing evil is an evil act . Is it? Or, trying to imprison him (admitting I have no idea how that works in star wars, but in theory is an option).
It's like being required to be tolerant of hate, in the name of tolerance. I'm not required to do that.
 

Ryujin

Legend
That's assuming killing evil is an evil act . Is it? Or, trying to imprison him (admitting I have no idea how that works in star wars, but in theory is an option).
Killing isn't an evil act, in and of itself. MURDER is. Like I said, old school. @Stalker0 has also made a very valid point on the matter.

If you can't accept either of those, then how about, "Because Vader has to be alive in 'A New Hope'"?
 

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