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Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
Yes, by making a Half-Goliath or Half-Gnome just as viable as anything else, the options are expanded. By removing the concept from mechanics, the ickyness is removed.
Everything without a mechanical expression is equally "viable", yes. The viability of meaninglessness in the game.
 

DEFCON 1

Legend
Supporter
I will facetiously joke and say that WotC's true design goal is to merely reproduce the 2014E game, except making Beastmaster Rangers, 4 Elements Monks, the Weapons table and the Stealth rules cleaned up and made more explicit, plus removing the +10 bonus damage from the Great Weapon and Sharpshooter feats...

...just so players will finally shut up about those stupid things. They've been whining about them for 8 years and they won't ever stop.

Anything past that? It's indeed just moving chairs around trying to clean up some language and make a few series of instructions clearer. Not totally necessary, but if you're going to re-produce the book anyway, might as well do it. But there's never been any intention of turning this new version into something 2014E is not. It's not 4E, it's not Level Up, it's merely a spit shine on 2014E. That's it. And if you don't like 2014E... there's absolutely no reason to bother following along. You're just just going to make yourself upset. ;)
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Look upthread at the suggestion of making hybrid characters inherently inferior tl "purebloods" due to mechanical tradeoffs.
What does that have to do with half creatures in D&D AND how does that go away by simply moving "half" to background? That's a people issue. They will do it or not.
 

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
I will facetiously joke and say that WotC's true design goal is to merely reproduce the 2014E game, except making Beastmaster Rangers, 4 Elements Monks, the Weapons table and the Stealth rules cleaned up and made more explicit, plus removing the +10 bonus damage from the Great Weapon and Sharpshooter feats...

...just so players will finally shut up about those stupid things. They've been whining about them for 8 years and they won't ever stop.

Anything past that? It's indeed just moving chairs around trying to clean up some language and make a few series of instructions clearer. Not totally necessary, but if you're going to re-produce the book anyway, might as well do it. But there's never been any intention of turning this new version into something 2014E is not. It's not 4E, it's not Level Up, it's merely a spit shine on 2014E. That's it. And if you don't like 2014E... there's absolutely no reason to bother following along. You're just just going to make yourself upset. ;)
All of that sounds like simultaneously a waste of design effort AND a cash grab. How far we've fallen.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Everything without a mechanical expression is equally "viable", yes. The viability of meaninglessness in the game.
Well, WotC is going to tell people they can be Half-Gnomes or Half-Orcs. Or will they enter the minefield of racial hierarchy. This is basically inevitable due to market forces.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
What does that have to do with half creatures in D&D AND how does that go away by simply moving "half" to background? That's a people issue. They will do it or not.
Making games is a business of pleasing people. Therefore WotC will pursue the path of pleasing the most people: say "yes" to hybrids, but not turning off people with racial hierchy.
 

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
Well, WotC is going to tell people they can be Half-Gnomes or Half-Orcs. Or will they enter the minefield of racial hierarchy. This is basically inevitable due to market forces.
WotC's way to handle mixed heritage is literally the only "safe" method? That's hilarious.
 



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