How many decisions/points of input does a director have, and how many does an AI user have?
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D&D General DMs Guild and DriveThruRPG ban AI written works, requires labels for AI generated art
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I have seen some ARTIST friends do pretty amazing things with Midjourney by tweaking and curating prompts and outputs over the course of hours. It might not be the same thing as painting but it also isn't nothing.
I feel like a lot of this "it's just clicking a button!" attitude comes from people who have never used it and don't have the first idea of what it takes to get a thing you want.
At the same time,I absolutely agree that there is a huge amount of low effort crap out there. But you know what? That was true during the d20 boom too and that useless chaff was made by humans and no better for it.
I absolutely understand and agree with the people who want to make sure generative AI is not trained on stolen data. But I also completely disagree with the "it's not art" people. Whether something is art is based on literally one thing: does a person look at it and see art.
Levistus's_Leviathan
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Absolutely. The fact that corporations in America were the ones that were able to get it increased shows who it's benefiting.
Levistus's_Leviathan
5e Freelancer
I have played around with generating prompts with AI art. It is more than just clicking a button, but it's also way less than actually drawing the image yourself. That doesn't make it an art.
You'll note I did not say that. I said AI art was art if someone pointed at it and called it art. That's the definition.
Here's a question for the "prompts aren't making art people":
I can't draw. Like, at all. But I can make enough of a sketch that if I scan it in and use it as part of a prompt I can -- after a few rounds of tweaking -- get something that I feel is what I was going after with my sketch.
Am I the artist now?
If not, what exactly is the minimal amount of work/time/whatever necessary for me to claim ownership over the result?
I can't draw. Like, at all. But I can make enough of a sketch that if I scan it in and use it as part of a prompt I can -- after a few rounds of tweaking -- get something that I feel is what I was going after with my sketch.
Am I the artist now?
If not, what exactly is the minimal amount of work/time/whatever necessary for me to claim ownership over the result?
It is extremely easy to solve, just don't buy anything produced using AI or robotics.
In general I am against people imposing their own morals on others. If you think something is wrong don't partake in it, but let me make my own choices on right and wrong. It is simple as that.
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A requirement to disclose this would be great but I'm not sure we can expect that from US regulatory agencies. So in that case, we are reliant on corporations to disclose honestly. And, you know...
Yes because I can take whatever they do and resell it myself. It will take away their near-monopoly on things.
Yes with the internet in fact they do. Look at the thousands (or millions) of content creators and influencers that exist already. Now imagine each of them is allowed to use others works and the works of major corporations without any sort of permission or agreement.
Levistus's_Leviathan
5e Freelancer
That's going to be much harder once all the major corporations replace writers, extras, authors, painters/graphic designers, and music writers with AI. And also doesn't relate to your idea of "just get rid of copyright".
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