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Party to new character: "So... what exactly do you do?"
Artificer: "I make machines to stop spirits and hunt werewolves!"
Both party werewolf and party shamanistic druid cough and ahem.
What other ways? A palidin is a holy warrior in plate. A pursuit avenger is a holy warrior in cloth who runs after that one orc whilst his party gets knocked around. And happens to be dex/wis.
He's a pali in the high cha way? In the lay on hands way?
Essentials slayer says hi.
There power list is hit with sword and hit with sword harder. Occasionally utilitys that do something else.
Also, one can argue that a fighter could have simply not used any powers. You would just suck compared to one that did. Is that a problem?
This is a player style disconnect problem. You players (assuming for 'they') are simply picking which parts of the game they want to not be bad at. They are obviously not interested in having weaknesses. You should either embrace that or find players that do like such things.
Weird. Every shop here carried it, including every bookstore. It even included the shops with people who worked there actively trying to push an agenda on people trying to buy a book, which isn't as rare as it ought to be.
To me, it is always a turn-baised tactical fantasy fighting game where oddball misanthropes+one guy who can talk go and save the world from a mad god/wizard who's out to control everything with an awesome magic spell.
Other considerations are not specific to DnD.
The only argument on how it works for non-ameniasic mages is that DnD and Vance did it. Plus, mundane... A mundane fighter cannot match up to even a middling amount of reality warping. If the fighter cannot parry a fireball or a dragon's breath, it will never be useful for a wizard. Fighters...
Thing is, if Vancian works for magic, why not have it work for martial as well? It's a secret fighting technique that immediately vacates your body until you study it again the next day? And your training capacity only increases by level or str mod cause you have more muscle/skill to store the...
Because it's only magic if it wins the situation. Magic is great and powerful. Traditional wizards were limited from always winning by limited preparation. They had to know exactly which 'I win' button to have. Combat and non-combat used the same resources cause a wizard's resources is in...
Focus fire on the character that can't take focus fire. If the tank exists, he is either up to the taunt requirement of avoiding it or the squishys die. It works well to disincentivize squishys from being remotely mortal.
This is good or bad depending on taste.
OTHER WMD's huh? Once my party found a cool floating fortress that was about a mile in diameter and had an optical cloak from the bottom that reflected the top so it didn't cast a giant shadow.
We messed with it and made it a mile wide magnifying glass. We then found out a location where a...