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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    I suppose that may be a possibility, but it appears that Fatigue and Exhaustion are no longer a part of the game. I can find nothing in PHB about these conditions (unless they are not conditions anymore). Those conditions aren't that bad, slight problem occasionally overcoming SR. The...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    If your a single classed caster and the rules say you get 17 powers, so be it. My problem is with the multiclassed caster only getting 4. You gat a total of 17 powers for your career, by giving up powers from your primary class (losing power) you should be able to pick up powers from your...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    OK - Maybe I misunderstood. I thought you had stated previously that you could swap between classes. Maybe it was someone else. Gotcha - thought you were trying to say a conditional +1 was better than a permanent +2. So what you seem to be saying here is that 4.0 feats make weaker...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    TY - good to be back, and I'm glad this discussion is exciting. This is the way the rules are written. Right, that what I was talking about, but you can not replace with your sceond class power. But, those are still only possible bonuses. Back to the wall only applies when...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    Because it states on pg 209, under the Power Swap Feats " Any time you gain a level you can alter the decision. Effectively, pretend you're choosing the power swap feat for the first time at the new level. You gain back the power that you gave up from your primary class, lose the power you...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    I'm not sure if you've followed this discussion from the begining, the main discussion is technically not over the percentage of the powers, its about a wizard (or other caster) single classed only being allowed to know a total of 17 spells for thier entire career. Or a multiclassed caster only...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    1st - Sorry for delay in responding - could not login in 2 days. Now: If it needs to be limited more try not allowing multiclassing before a certain level (8th as example) and eliminate the power swap feats so the powers you have before multiclass you have to keep. True, but even under the...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    There are limiting factors; he/she can only know a total of 17 powers. And if the wizard wants to make a bad build like that he/she should be allowed to. In either case giving up the powers from your prime class, and selecting from your second class (IMHO) should be allowed because of the fact...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    Actually, I don't know if there is one, I wrote those items in a list, being a little upset. Yes, he will know less spells, but why can't he learn more from some other source like another wizard, spellbook, etc. Why is he limited to know only 3? If a wizard multiclassed into a fighter and...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    No, I actually meant power. Some powers like the clerics do have prerequisites like channel divinity, the rogues sneak attack, rangers hunters quarry. If you multiclass at 6th level you have the powers that you can choose at various levels (this is fact), my thought is you can choose from...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    The multiclass feat specifically states you may only use it once per day. If it was something else it would be spelled out that way.
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    This is also assuming you meet the prerequisites for the power (some do have them). OK - bad anology - but the point is still valid. A wizard (even a multiclassed wizard) that can only cast 3 spells is not worth having. (IMHO) But this can not happen. You only can have 3 powers. My...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    The multiclassing feat into a cleric specifically states you may use it once per day. So that would be it - you can use it and target gets extra 1d6 healing. For a full blown cleric it is a special encounter power. Note keyword Special. And he can only use this 2 times per encounter.
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    That is not 100% correct, according to paragon multiclassing section if you have the power swap feats and do not take the paragon path you gain a power (which is at 11th level paragon) of 7th level or lower (effectivly losing 4 levels) in place of your paragon path power, which because it is a...
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    Multiclassing Feats & Powers

    So if all you can ever have is 3 why multiclass? If this is correct they would have been better off (IMHO) saying there is no such thing as multiclassing anymore. (Not even with feats.) This I understand, but I think even if your an apprentice mage you should be able to learn more than 3...
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