D&D (2024) What Should D&D 2024 Have Been +

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)

• Apr 24, 2024

• #11

I am alright with what we got, but I definitely would have preferred a more significant overhaul. They were plenty clear from the beginning that the goal was a facelift to the current edition rather than an actual new edition. But I would definitely have been here for a whole new edition that embraced some of the innovations seen in PF2, Level Up, and other recent evolutions of the d20 system.

 

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Reynard

Legend

• Apr 24, 2024

• #12

The way I view it is, 5E is not (mechanically) a better game than, say, 50% of the fantasy RPGs on the market. Therefore it has lots of opportunities for growth and innovation. That they decided to just stick with a decade old "good enough" design is frustrating.

 

Frozen_Heart

Hero

• Apr 24, 2024

• #13

Yeah to me, 5.5e is just looking like a big sidegrade. I see absolutely no reason to switch over from 5e. Pretty much every single thing I liked and enjoyed from the playtests got canned.

• I was really hoping for a shared maneuver system between all martials. That way new books can add new maneuvers just like they add endless spells for casters.
• I really wanted subclass spells for sorcerer, but they're doubling down on not having them.
• Class groups was great, but they're gone too.
• I've been fed up with the limitations of 5e classes/subclasses since before Xanathar's. But even my most pessimistic thoughts didn't predict getting the original 12 classes again before we got new classes for 5e.
• They're doubling down on things like 'attack with casting stat'. Stats are feeling less like they mean anything, and more like they're just 'primary attack stat 1, 2, or 3'.
• I hate the entire 'gameification' of the world. PC's using completely different rules to NPC's, and things like bastions being something which upgrades on level, rather than through the PC's work and currency.

 

Frozen_Heart

Hero

• Apr 24, 2024

• #14

Reynard said:

The way I view it is, 5E is not (mechanically) a better game than, say, 50% of the fantasy RPGs on the market. Therefore it has lots of opportunities for growth and innovation. That they decided to just stick with a decade old "good enough" design is frustrating.

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I feel 5e was an amazing and solid foundation to build upon when it first came out.

But they never built on it. And that foundation is now weathering away and covered in moss from neglect.

 

cbwjm

Seb-wejem

• Apr 24, 2024

• #15

The only real things that I've wanted in 5e since the beginning is that all classes get their subclass at level 1 and all classes gain subclass levels at the same rate to allow for some subclasses to be able to be picked up by multiple classes. They were moving towards the second part then, sadly, later ditched it.

I'm not sure what else I would have really wanted in the game as I thought 5e was pretty good right off the bat.

 

Zardnaar

Legend

• Apr 24, 2024

• #16

Haven't see the new one. Generally.

Bit grittier

Keep half elf.

Overhaul the monsters returning some pre 5E abilities eg proper MR/SR not advantage on saves.

 

Frozen_Heart

Hero

• Apr 24, 2024

• #17

Zardnaar said:

Keep half elf.

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I'd like half elves and orcs to stay, but gain their own species names and cultures. Similar to how it works in Eberron or Pathfinder.

 

bedir than

Full Moon Storyteller

• Apr 25, 2024

• #18

Breaking up nature and nurture like just about every other 5e variant does

 

mamba

Legend

• Apr 25, 2024

• #19

cbwjm said:

all classes gain subclass levels at the same rate

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definitely, forgot about that one, the second big disappointment after not killing short rest...

 

UngainlyTitan

Legend

Supporter

• Apr 25, 2024

• #20

I would also like to have seen a unified subclass progression. The other thing I would like to have seen would be the integration of Hit Dice into the healing mechanics and the spells rebalanced around that.
Along with a separation of resource recovery from Hit Dice recovery.