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My original point was simply this: some players/characters/parties/gaming groups play the game with certain priorities, and others have others. Your enjoyment of your heroic character may not be dependent on me playing a character who is sub par in combat, or vice versa. Perhaps Juan's...

Emminently fair. I made the mistake of thinking that you only wanted to refute me, rather than legitimately discuss my concerns. Now that I see that this is not the case, please allow me to respond more appropriately. I will need some time to compose my thoughts in an orderly and logical...

Accepted. Nevertheless, the homogenous nature of all the classes under the new pogrom does not infuse me with confidence that it is going to be friendly to someone who would rather go read a book than play a cookie-cutter D&D character. Original characters aren't easy to design after 20+ years...

Nothing at all. What in 4th Edition allows me to play a character who is required to be cunning, witty or ingenuous? Maybe it's too fine a distinction, but I happen to like sometimes playing a character who has those qualities in lieu of kick ass combat ablities, rather than in addition to them.

You are correct, sir. You don't understand my point. I believe that you and I are on different trains, Cadfan. If mine leaves the station heading south at 50 mph and two hours later, yours leaves the other station heading northeast at 34 mph, then how long will it be before you and I have...

If I might pitch in, I'd have to say that the OP (who happens to be my DM) makes a lot of points that I agree with, but doesn't seem to make the points that are at the top of my head as I burrow into 4E... or if he does make them, they seem to have missed most of the responders to the thread...

I've changed my mind. My favorite monster is actually... GAMERA!!!

I hope that it will be better than the Hyborean Age rpgs that I've tried playing in the past... but it sounds like it has good credentials, so I'll keep my hopes high. :D

Hey, look! It's a R.A. Salvatore novel!

Don't worry about a thing, Caudor. It's only uncomfortable for a little while, and before long, you'll wonder why you didn't join us sooner. Heck, looking back now, I can't figure out how I got by without my implant for so long! And being a figment of Piratecat's imagination has a few...

Ok. I was going to finish up my work, go home, and get ready for the D&D game I've got starting in an hour. But for this, I HAD to log back on... A kobold just called a member of the Army of Immortals a poser. ... ... ... ... Balls of steel, my kobold friend. Balls of steel. Hail! And...

Which reminds me: I am now the proud owner of a genuine japanese katana. I didn't even feel the blade slice my thumb... oooohh, yeah, this is one fine weapon. Now I'm happy. :D

Not for the first time, I find myself wishing that I could game with you guys.... :D

Fekt. Baseball game's wrapping up... which means I've got to actually work here at work now... *sighs* I'll try and hop back online before I head for my D&D game tonight and see how everything's going. Bye for now, all, and remember: Keep on keepin' on! :D

On behalf of the Hive: (I can do that, y'know, 'cause we're the Hive... :) ) Hey, Grim!

Me and my friends used to be heavily into sparring with wooden swords. When we started, some of us were as worthless as that young chap. We got better really quick, since one of our gaming group was a guy with a kaibo and several years of actual training. God, that stuff was fun... Anyways...

*embarrased grin* Uhm... I don't remember... it was long ago, and I was mostly a lurker... I had to make this username because after being absent from the boards for several months, I couldn't remember either my username or my password...

Nope. I have remained avatarless since this username's conception.... Don't ask me why; I don't know. Just never got around to making one, I guess....

Concurrance.