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Vote me for currency as an abstract. Money has always been a poor way (imhe) of handling character growth and I prefer its abstracted into a role playing concept and that any equipment gain is handled through other mechanisms.

Wicket, I get it, you like thresholds. I can accept that. I dont like thresholds, plain and simple. This is a forum. I dont like thresholds, I was only try to make myself understood why. If my last post came across as argumentative then Im sorry...I only meant it to be a clarification of my...

For what its worth, Im more for a level mechanic than thresholds. Maybe even instead of binary that there is a spell failure link with it, or maybe something like creatures over certain levels getting advantage. Something like "Turn into Jelly" Save : Constitution Effect : Your target turns...

Minor point Barbarian ability "Thick Hide" While you are not wearing any armor, your Armor Class equals 10 + your Dexterity modifier + your Constitution modifier. So what happens if I find some leather of fire resistance and my con bonus is higher than the AC bonus the leather armor provides...

Always had an issue with this myself. I have heard the arguments for Wisdom as the stat to use (its your intuition e.t.c.) and I have never disagreed with them. What I have disagreed with is then end result, which is what is listed above. That "Wisdom" classes end up as the best detectors...

TY to falling Icicle for wording it better than I did! Glad your seeing the issue. Its not a small problem, especially given that the right spell can be so very nasrty in its effect, and it you have (say) a stat of 14 to resist a caster that blasts at DC 20, your screwed regardless. For my...

I dont mind deadly strike. We have learned through trial and error over a very long period of time that you can only scale numbers that affect d20 rolls so much before things start breaking down. If anything, this takes what was in 3.x bonus to hit and move a good amount of that into damage...

Agreed. But still, alot of care is needed here. I get (and like) that there is more to caster classes than just their spells, but ultimately its icing on the cake. The Spells they have access to define the caster classes. All Im saying is that in the current play packet, I actually (for the...

I dont mind a LITTLE scaling (emphasis on little), but it should be matched, or at least have (non-equipment) options to help it match up MUCH better than HP thresholds (IMO). HP thresholds...so divisive.

Ok, so we have flat scaling of d20 based roll growth. Awesome. Now, spell casters (the dedicated type) get up to a +5 bonus at level 20 and (presumably by then) will have a stat of 20 for a total save dc to avoid their spells of...20! Now, spell target ALL stats, but you can only consistently...

This would make me very happy if they could make this work. To me, the sage is the best offered (compared to the evocation and illusion options) and even then it allows more spells in spell book where druid has access to all druid spells, therefore the only advantage the sage offers if more...

Absolutely granted. I was just talking about the fact that martial capability wasnt built in in a raw form as it was for cleric.

For the recovery of expertise dice I would like something kinda cool for fighters to be able to recover. Leave the "I can use an action bit", but its a fall back at best as we can allow for other, better thematic options. For instance, a "bezerker" fighter might grant enemies attacking him...

Ok, so looking at the Druid and particularly comparing him to the mage. Druid in Dndn appears to be very caster oriented. No enhanced martial capability (poor to hit, do "deadly dice") but compared to the mage has some armor options, better weapon options and (slightly) better HP. So a very...

Havent played it. I do like the sound of it though. I appreciate that they want monster to be scary, in fact I agree with sometimes putting something in there to break players from complacency and really spooking em hard! However...old school level drain was (to me) a disaster I will cast my...

You sound...angry. Im not. I actually thought this playtest was a distinct improvement on the last. Complete? No. But after listening to the podcasts (I am assuming you listen to them) I like the way they analyse objectives and requirements and you can see their rational manifesting in these...

Im actually very happy with the Druid. I never liked that whole "Scan the MM for the toughest killing machine you can justify" bit, then the "change into whatever I damn-well like to get around any situation you can think of". Long and short of it, in some players hands, the shapechange was just...

Why would the dice be freaking? There is no reason for them to be anxious!

I will second this. After 4e I could never sell my player a complex system again. We need something where a character can be put together in 5 minutes without any real investment in peoples time. Ask my guys to study a book, they wont even look at twice. Casual players : They exist.

I know exactly what you are saying with this. Your right...ultimately its just a god-given, limited use resource, how does 2 different systems that achieve the same end imply flexibility. If anything, its unnecessary complication. That said, I would love it if channeling and spells represented...