The Crux of the Matter

Bront said:
Isn't it 5gp per xp? Or is that spellcasting? Looks like you're charging... 12.5?

And read my edit on the numbers :)


Good thing I have dark vision :)
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(OOC: That should help you avoid total panic, since you can still see, but you would be Shaken and also paranoid, thinking that everyone around you is probably a dark elf in disguise)
 

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(OOC: On the amulet, normally you get to target the final spell just before dying. Currently, however, the amulet has a chance to make its own decision (that Fireball you wanted to use to finish the enemy? Oops, centred on you instead!). If you only use Personal Spells (False Life is a good option there too), you can avoid this fate)
 

Knight Otu said:
(Hm, only post where you said something like that is the post directly before I brought up the idea of paying the farmers.

The nexus definitely needs fixing. Can't make Ashnar even better at dying than he already is. What about the amulet?

XP costs for crafting are 1/25 of the item's base price.)
Ashna nods as Vanitri echoes her thoughts.
"I believe I mentioned 1000 gold crowns as a sum that wouldn't wreck the local economy while helping the farmers quite a bit."
(;))
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Yes, I agreed with your sentnimate. I don't know if I talked Laynie into it. I tried and got no responce.

and 1/25th is raw cost, 1/250th is the repair cost, usually it's 5 GP per XP expended for spells, so that was the pricing I was talking about as payment based off what RA said.
Rystil Arden said:
(OOC: That should help you avoid total panic, since you can still see, but you would be Shaken and also paranoid, thinking that everyone around you is probably a dark elf in disguise)
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They're not? :confused:
 

Anyway, finance plan and crafting plan for Tenebrynn and me: I get the nexus fixed, purchase a scroll of secret page and erase (reason later if it isn't immediately obvious), scribe secret page into my spellbook, and craft my blessed book. Then I scribe all spells, including erase, into the blessed book (yay for freedom from the 100 gp/page cost). Tenebrynn can then borrow either my old spellbook or my blessed book to prepare the spell for his bookcrafting (he can't really fail the Spellcraft check). I erase the sparkstrike from my old spellbook, so I can safely sell it.
Tenebrynn does not need to purchase scrolls of dimension door or secret page, which he can copy from me (or, if he prepared dimension door three times, from his memory in that case). If Tenebrynn purchases a fox's cunning then, they can craft a headband of intellect then, and Ashnar has enough resources to research two or three spells on his own (perhaps more if Tenebrynn is capable/willing to help). That should work out something like this:
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+15,000 gp?					Share
-    40 gp					Ivory plaque
-   750 gp	-  40 XP			Fixing Necromantic Nexus
-   400 gp					Purchase scrolls of secret page and erase
-   300 gp					Scribe secret page to spellbook
- 6,250 gp	- 500 XP	-1250 Craft	Create blessed book
						Scribe spells, including erase, into blessed book
						[i]Erase[/i] Ashar's sparkstrike from old spellbook.
[s]						Lend blessed book or spellbook to Tenebrynn for his crafting efforts[/s]
+ 3,500 gp					Sell old spellbook (70 pages scribes without sparkstrike)
- 2,000 gp	- 160 XP	- 400 Craft	Create headband of intellect +2
- X,000 gp			- X00 Craft	Spell research
Any glaring errors with that plan that I shouldn't have overlooked?
Yep, saw it after rereading the borrowing passage.
 
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Profit?

How are you on craft points? Vanitri would be willing to help if it means you'd perhaps help him with an item (He'd love to get the enhancement bonus on his bracelets to +4) as well as helping with removing the curse. I'm guessing you can't help with the weapon, and he'll just have to pay for that, and we've already discussed the ring.
 

We'll need to figure out step two before the profit. :p

Once the level-up is approved, Ashnar'll have 10530 craft points to spare. At most, this'll go down to 7880 craft when those projects are done. The scrolls Ashnar might want to create to sell to Rinaldo's shop won't impact that too much. He'll also have 1899 "spare" XP, which'll go down to about 1199 (lower with the potential scrolls), so he can help with some of the wild items.
 

Tenebrynn will need to borrow Ashnar's ability to contribute Secret Page to the construction of his Blessed Book. I'd even foot you half the cost of the scroll/scribing too. Once we have all our own spellbooks scribed into the new ones, I'd like to peruse Ashnar's for spells to exchange if he is open to that (other than his private ones).

EDIT: Looks like I got the private ones from your current spells already.
The only ones I'm missing are:
Lightning Bolt
Dimension Door
mnemonic enhancer
wall of fire
wall of ice


And the ones that Tenebrynn will give you to study from his spell book if you want are:
Disturb Equilibrium
Enlarge Person
Magic Missile
Magic Weapon
Shield
True Strike*
Arcane Lock
Detect Thoughts*
Eagle's Splendor
Locate Object*
Magic Mouth
Rope Trick
Web
Clairaudience/Clairvoyance*
Dispel Magic
Fly
Haste
Slow
Summon Monster 3
Scrying
 
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Knight Otu said:
Anyway, finance plan and crafting plan for Tenebrynn and me: I get the nexus fixed, purchase a scroll of secret page and erase (reason later if it isn't immediately obvious), scribe secret page into my spellbook, and craft my blessed book. Then I scribe all spells, including erase, into the blessed book (yay for freedom from the 100 gp/page cost). Tenebrynn can then borrow either my old spellbook or my blessed book to prepare the spell for his bookcrafting (he can't really fail the Spellcraft check). I erase the sparkstrike from my old spellbook, so I can safely sell it.
Tenebrynn does not need to purchase scrolls of dimension door or secret page, which he can copy from me (or, if he prepared dimension door three times, from his memory in that case). If Tenebrynn purchases a fox's cunning then, they can craft a headband of intellect then, and Ashnar has enough resources to research two or three spells on his own (perhaps more if Tenebrynn is capable/willing to help).
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With regards to fox's cunning, yup he'll be buying it and can work with Ashnar to create the headband. For spell research, as long as Tenebrynn can have copies of spells (and he'll agree not to share them) then he'd help.
 

Knight Otu said:
Anyway, finance plan and crafting plan for Tenebrynn and me: I get the nexus fixed, purchase a scroll of secret page and erase (reason later if it isn't immediately obvious), scribe secret page into my spellbook, and craft my blessed book. Then I scribe all spells, including erase, into the blessed book (yay for freedom from the 100 gp/page cost). Tenebrynn can then borrow either my old spellbook or my blessed book to prepare the spell for his bookcrafting (he can't really fail the Spellcraft check). I erase the sparkstrike from my old spellbook, so I can safely sell it.
Tenebrynn does not need to purchase scrolls of dimension door or secret page, which he can copy from me (or, if he prepared dimension door three times, from his memory in that case). If Tenebrynn purchases a fox's cunning then, they can craft a headband of intellect then, and Ashnar has enough resources to research two or three spells on his own (perhaps more if Tenebrynn is capable/willing to help). That should work out something like this:
Code: 
+15,000 gp?					Share
-    40 gp					Ivory plaque
-   750 gp	-  40 XP			Fixing Necromantic Nexus
-   400 gp					Purchase scrolls of secret page and erase
-   300 gp					Scribe secret page to spellbook
- 6,250 gp	- 500 XP	-1250 Craft	Create blessed book
						Scribe spells, including erase, into blessed book
						[i]Erase[/i] Ashar's sparkstrike from old spellbook.
[s]						Lend blessed book or spellbook to Tenebrynn for his crafting efforts[/s]
+ 3,500 gp					Sell old spellbook (70 pages scribes without sparkstrike)
- 2,000 gp	- 160 XP	- 400 Craft	Create headband of intellect +2
- X,000 gp			- X00 Craft	Spell research
Any glaring errors with that plan that I shouldn't have overlooked?
Yep, saw it after rereading the borrowing passage.
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(OOC: I don't know what the RAW is, but if I was the only GM, I at least would not give a single penny for the pages scribed with all the cantrips, since all Wizards start with a spellbook containing those for free, so they can't be particularly valuable (IOW--who would buy them?).

And in a terribly unrelated aside, I should mention that casting a spell from the nexus (whether or not you use the Still Spell) counts as using a Metamagic Rod for purposes of 'you can't use more than one metamagic rod on a single spell')
 

Erekose: Works for me (though Ashnar'd like a chance to scribe fox's cunning as well). Depending on the spells researched, there may be some you'd not need to keep private, though probably only the athleticate augmentation qualifies currently.

Rystil: Silly as it is, it's on page 179: Selling a spellbook, 50 gold per filled page. No problem on the nexus, I figured that was the case. And while it isn't terribly important yet to fix the amulet, what's the cost to do so? Eventually, Ashnar'll want to do so.
 

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