Where is Ravenloft in Greyhawk?

Endur

First Post

• Oct 18, 2006

• #1

Where is Castle Ravenloft on the map of Greyhawk?

I6 does not give any suggestions for where to place Barovia nor does the new Expedition to Castle Ravenloft (the AD&D Ravenloft boxed set placed Barovia in a demi-plane).

I would think Castle Ravenloft would probably be best placed on the border of Keoland or Urnst, but I'm looking for suggestions.

 

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Sandain

Explorer

• Oct 18, 2006

• #2

I seem to recall in the novel I, Strahd, that he was in the Great Kingdom somewhere.

 

Michael Morris

First Post

• Oct 18, 2006

• #3

Ravenloft is in it's own Demiplane, the Plane of Imprisonment where the ancient gods shackled Tharzidun in attempt to prevent his return.

 

Joël of the FoS

First Post

• Oct 18, 2006

• #4

Sandain said:

I seem to recall in the novel I, Strahd, that he was in the Great Kingdom somewhere.

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FYI, Barovia and Strahd weren't from a known D&D universe.

But if you want to set it in Greyhawk, a very lonely mountanous area will do well.

Joël

 

Cthulhudrew

First Post

• Oct 18, 2006

• #5

Spoony Bard said:

Ravenloft is in it's own Demiplane, the Plane of Imprisonment where the ancient gods shackled Tharzidun in attempt to prevent his return.

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Has that actually been established (the Tharizdun part) or just something you are suggesting? I've never seen it anywhere else (though I'm hardly a RL scholar), so I'm just curious. It would certainly explain a lot about the nature of the place, but I thought they kept the whole "Dark Powers" concept intentionally vague.

 

Cthulhudrew

First Post

• Oct 18, 2006

• #6

Joël of the FoS said:

But if you want to set it in Greyhawk, a very lonely mountanous area will do well.

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I'm trying to think of an area with a history that would fit in well. I'm thinking, offhand, something in Northwestern Oerth- the Tergs could have been nomads of the northlands.

Either that, or maybe somewhere near Ket, with the invading Tergs possibly being from Tusmit or the Plains of the Paynims?

 

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Hunter In Darkness

First Post

• Oct 18, 2006

• #7

in planscape the plane of immprisonment and ravenloft was not the same thing just close

 

the Jester

Legend

• Oct 18, 2006

• #8

Spoony Bard said:

Ravenloft is in it's own Demiplane, the Plane of Imprisonment where the ancient gods shackled Tharzidun in attempt to prevent his return.

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Actually, it's the Demiplane of Dread. The Demiplane of Imprisonment is quite different, to the best of my knowledge.

As to placing Castle Ravenloft in Greyhawk- hmm, I'd prolly put it somewhere that feels kinda "Eastern European" in flavor- maybe, er, on the border of the Bone March?

 

MerricB

Eternal Optimist

Supporter

• Oct 18, 2006

• #9

Endur said:

Where is Castle Ravenloft on the map of Greyhawk?

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It isn't. No-one who might have mapped it has returned.

Joel is right - it wasn't originally set in any campaign world.

I would think Castle Ravenloft would probably be best placed on the border of Keoland or Urnst, but I'm looking for suggestions.

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Quite right. In fact, there are many, many places for Castle Ravenloft in Greyhawk. In an unremarked barony of the Great Kingdom, in a borderland of the Sheldomar Valley, etc.

Really, it's wherever suits your campaign the best. Greyhawk, having many a feudal nation, is perfect for dropping it anywhere that seems appropriate.

Cheers!

 

Shemeska

Adventurer

• Oct 18, 2006

• #10

Spoony Bard said:

Ravenloft is in it's own Demiplane, the Plane of Imprisonment where the ancient gods shackled Tharzidun in attempt to prevent his return.

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As Hunter in Darkness and the Jester said, Ravenloft was the Demiplane of Dread, and was explicitely different from the Demiplane of Imprisonment that the Elder Elemental God / Tharizdun was bottled up within. 'Guide to the Ethereal Plane' (among other sources) make this distinction very clear.

And as I recall Strahd's Barovia, before he was snatched up by the Mists, was a kingdom on an otherwise nameless prime material world. It wasn't part of a previously named world, just a random one on the prime.