Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is LIVE! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Loonook" data-source="post: 4550103" data-attributes="member: 1861"><p>Isn't the whole point of critiquing a game system boiling down to 'I like Edition/System/What-have-you X'? To say that somehow this type of critique is inappropriate against 4e is ignoring every White Wolf vs. WotC, GW vs. WW, Rolemaster v. Nobilis v. FATAL debate which has ever occurred in some dark, dodgy sweat-soaked Gencon hotel room or sleep-addled forum posting.</p><p></p><p>The valid critique starts with 'I prefer edition X' but in many cases there are reasons which this preference can affect the enjoyment of the game and thus have full rights to be aired so as to possibly find a way to resolve these issues without having to cling to an old edition (or rush to the new).</p><p></p><p>Cosmology, powers, core races, the wholesale corruption of campaign settings... yeah, that's great. Some people can enjoy it, and some can really just overlook and rely on separate older materials or homebrews to get them going. </p><p></p><p>However, the texture of this ruleset, the mouthfeel when you take a good swallow, seems too mixed up and doesn't have a natural feel. The system could be used for other things possibly, and used well; however, to say that one group of people has no right to be irritated that a system they find inferior has replaced the system they grew up with and enjoyed, a system which to them seems perfect . . . well, they just lost 1st party support for their favored system. </p><p></p><p>Good of you to be the arbiter of tastes while telling others not to do so.</p><p></p><p>Slainte,</p><p></p><p>-Loonook.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Loonook, post: 4550103, member: 1861"] Isn't the whole point of critiquing a game system boiling down to 'I like Edition/System/What-have-you X'? To say that somehow this type of critique is inappropriate against 4e is ignoring every White Wolf vs. WotC, GW vs. WW, Rolemaster v. Nobilis v. FATAL debate which has ever occurred in some dark, dodgy sweat-soaked Gencon hotel room or sleep-addled forum posting. The valid critique starts with 'I prefer edition X' but in many cases there are reasons which this preference can affect the enjoyment of the game and thus have full rights to be aired so as to possibly find a way to resolve these issues without having to cling to an old edition (or rush to the new). Cosmology, powers, core races, the wholesale corruption of campaign settings... yeah, that's great. Some people can enjoy it, and some can really just overlook and rely on separate older materials or homebrews to get them going. However, the texture of this ruleset, the mouthfeel when you take a good swallow, seems too mixed up and doesn't have a natural feel. The system could be used for other things possibly, and used well; however, to say that one group of people has no right to be irritated that a system they find inferior has replaced the system they grew up with and enjoyed, a system which to them seems perfect . . . well, they just lost 1st party support for their favored system. Good of you to be the arbiter of tastes while telling others not to do so. Slainte, -Loonook. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)
Top