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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 6034497" data-attributes="member: 6701124"><p>I'm missing how starting the characters off at 2nd or 3rd level (using 3.5/PF style hp and abilities) in your campaign hurts your game experience in any way except that you can't (canonically) use the words first level anymore. If you made the hp max-hd type at 1st level and avg. after that you'd get the fixed design you want and they would be the experienced, non-novice, party you wanted. It would also leave a place in the rules for those who wanted to start the game as cannon fodder in the old style or the 3.5/PF style start.</p><p> </p><p>On the other hand, making the 1st level default start at 4e-ish hp and power levels means that those wanting an old-style or even 3.5/PF style are either left in the cold or the game has to have some extra sections to help them balance the encounters and the like. (Do we call them 0 or -1 level and have the powers for those levels buried in the back... seems less elegant than just calling the way you want 2nd or 3rd level).</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The solution @<u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=3424" target="_blank">FireLance</a></u> offers is another way to go, but should the XP and treasure, etc... all be adjusted down for the Heroic characters at 1st level since the things aren't nearly as much of a challenge? But I guess we don't worry about that now for the different ways of generating character abilities, so maybe it isn't a problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 6034497, member: 6701124"] I'm missing how starting the characters off at 2nd or 3rd level (using 3.5/PF style hp and abilities) in your campaign hurts your game experience in any way except that you can't (canonically) use the words first level anymore. If you made the hp max-hd type at 1st level and avg. after that you'd get the fixed design you want and they would be the experienced, non-novice, party you wanted. It would also leave a place in the rules for those who wanted to start the game as cannon fodder in the old style or the 3.5/PF style start. On the other hand, making the 1st level default start at 4e-ish hp and power levels means that those wanting an old-style or even 3.5/PF style are either left in the cold or the game has to have some extra sections to help them balance the encounters and the like. (Do we call them 0 or -1 level and have the powers for those levels buried in the back... seems less elegant than just calling the way you want 2nd or 3rd level). The solution @[U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=3424"]FireLance[/URL][/U] offers is another way to go, but should the XP and treasure, etc... all be adjusted down for the Heroic characters at 1st level since the things aren't nearly as much of a challenge? But I guess we don't worry about that now for the different ways of generating character abilities, so maybe it isn't a problem. [/QUOTE]
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