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<blockquote data-quote="Gray Lensman" data-source="post: 5699988" data-attributes="member: 6680243"><p>Doppelganger Bard/Chamelion/Mind Spy/SpyMaster Build</p><p> </p><p>4d6 drop lowest times 7 drop lowest= (threw away a 10)</p><p>14</p><p>11</p><p>11</p><p>12</p><p>10</p><p>13</p><p> </p><p>Okay, where to put them. </p><p> </p><p>Chameleon use arcane spells as Wizard so INT is Important</p><p>divine spells as cleric so WIS is Important</p><p>Dexterity is important for the Rogue Abilities</p><p>Strenght for mimicing the Fighter</p><p>Constitution for Hit Point and Saves</p><p>Charisma for Interacting with people</p><p> </p><p>WOW! talk about MAD</p><p> </p><p>Doppleganger gets +4 to WIS and +2 to everrything else so that </p><p>helps.</p><p> </p><p>So - Where to put the scores</p><p>STR 10+2=12(+1)</p><p>DEX 12+2=14(+2)</p><p>CON 11+2=13(+1)</p><p>INT 14+2=16(+3) for skills and bonus spells</p><p>WIS 12+4=16(+3) for bonus divine spells</p><p>CHA 11+2=13(+1)</p><p> </p><p>Now, Doppleganger gets 7X(2+INT) for starting skills so 35 starting </p><p>skill points and two feats (one of which must be Able Learner which </p><p>has to be taken at first level) Even Cross Class skills now only </p><p>cost 1 point although maximum skill levels do not change.</p><p>and the Dopppleganger gets 4d8 HP before taking a class level, right?</p><p> </p><p>PrC Prereq for Chamelion is Able Learner Feat</p><p>Skills: Bluff 8, Disguise 8, Sense Motive 4, Spellcraft 4</p><p> </p><p>So, these skills are all Bard Class Skills, yet since max skill level is </p><p>3+Character level, I still can't qualify for Chameleon until Bard 5.</p><p> </p><p>In fact, the the other 2 PrCs also require a skill rank of 8 so I </p><p>have to be level 5 in anything, unless .....</p><p> </p><p>Do Monster get skills to the level of thier LA? Hmm... Seems that </p><p>the MM I has the Doppleganger listed as having 10 in bluff plus 9 in </p><p>Diguise which wouldn't even be right at that so skip that.</p><p> </p><p>I'll go with them starting LA 4 which gives skills at max 7 in class </p><p>skills so I will have to take at least one class level before going </p><p>into the Prestige Classes. Which is Okay since I need Spellcraft 4 </p><p>and can get it at Bard 1.</p><p> </p><p>Okay, playing a Doppleganger I can take 1 level of Bard and then be </p><p>qualified for Chameleon AND Spymaster if I take the Doppleganger's </p><p>second feat as Skill Focus (Bluff) AND Mind Spy if I make sure to </p><p>have 8 ranks in Concenttration. Which means I can actually mix and </p><p>match the three PrCs as needed to get the best skills at each ECL.</p><p> </p><p>Oh, I guess that also means I can go through Bard 1/Chameleon 10/ </p><p>Spymaster 7/Mind Spy 5 by 23 CL (27 ECL)</p><p> </p><p>Should make an interresting character.</p><p> </p><p>Now to figure out if mix/matching the three PrCs is worth it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gray Lensman, post: 5699988, member: 6680243"] Doppelganger Bard/Chamelion/Mind Spy/SpyMaster Build 4d6 drop lowest times 7 drop lowest= (threw away a 10) 14 11 11 12 10 13 Okay, where to put them. Chameleon use arcane spells as Wizard so INT is Important divine spells as cleric so WIS is Important Dexterity is important for the Rogue Abilities Strenght for mimicing the Fighter Constitution for Hit Point and Saves Charisma for Interacting with people WOW! talk about MAD Doppleganger gets +4 to WIS and +2 to everrything else so that helps. So - Where to put the scores STR 10+2=12(+1) DEX 12+2=14(+2) CON 11+2=13(+1) INT 14+2=16(+3) for skills and bonus spells WIS 12+4=16(+3) for bonus divine spells CHA 11+2=13(+1) Now, Doppleganger gets 7X(2+INT) for starting skills so 35 starting skill points and two feats (one of which must be Able Learner which has to be taken at first level) Even Cross Class skills now only cost 1 point although maximum skill levels do not change. and the Dopppleganger gets 4d8 HP before taking a class level, right? PrC Prereq for Chamelion is Able Learner Feat Skills: Bluff 8, Disguise 8, Sense Motive 4, Spellcraft 4 So, these skills are all Bard Class Skills, yet since max skill level is 3+Character level, I still can't qualify for Chameleon until Bard 5. In fact, the the other 2 PrCs also require a skill rank of 8 so I have to be level 5 in anything, unless ..... Do Monster get skills to the level of thier LA? Hmm... Seems that the MM I has the Doppleganger listed as having 10 in bluff plus 9 in Diguise which wouldn't even be right at that so skip that. I'll go with them starting LA 4 which gives skills at max 7 in class skills so I will have to take at least one class level before going into the Prestige Classes. Which is Okay since I need Spellcraft 4 and can get it at Bard 1. Okay, playing a Doppleganger I can take 1 level of Bard and then be qualified for Chameleon AND Spymaster if I take the Doppleganger's second feat as Skill Focus (Bluff) AND Mind Spy if I make sure to have 8 ranks in Concenttration. Which means I can actually mix and match the three PrCs as needed to get the best skills at each ECL. Oh, I guess that also means I can go through Bard 1/Chameleon 10/ Spymaster 7/Mind Spy 5 by 23 CL (27 ECL) Should make an interresting character. Now to figure out if mix/matching the three PrCs is worth it. [/QUOTE]
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