• The VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!

[Adult] Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, thread 2

kolvar

First Post
Everyone seems eager to drop everything we got, and do it all again.
Well, I guess we will never be done.
Could we agree on a deadline? I would suggest the 29th of June. Everything that is in at that moment stays in, everything that is in work goes to a web-enhancement or to guide 2.
Two month is a bit time, but if we do not start to work to some deadline, we will allways find something else we could put into the guide and tweak at the rules again.

btw. the orgy-magic-rules were inspired by the ritual rules from Relics & Rituals. That is why there is no feat for them.
 

log in or register to remove this ad

Sorn

First Post
@Kolvar: June 29th sounds good. That should give us enough time to get things straightened out.

Personally, I think Anabstercorian/Riot Gear is on the right track. I went through the guide over the weekend, and my list of stuff to keep/revise is virtually identical to his.
The spell list needs some serious work as it is right now. A lot of the spells are downright useless or are already covered by spells in the PHB (e.g. Slap/Goose/Tweak cantrips are easily handled by Prestidigitation or Mage Hand).

Most of the game rules are new anyway, so they just need a little simplification and we are good to go.

Let's get out the work gloves and get going on finishing this puppy up!
 

kolvar

First Post
reread the new feat. Somehow there should be a possibility for all those demon-worshipping witches to do some real awfull things through sex-magic to others than personal/ touch and healing.
Maybe a second feat with this one as prerequ?
 

kolvar

First Post
Scanned through the Spell-List in the guied and what follows is my list of spells, I would drop immediatly. Some others, I would realy have to think about. Some spelle, others may see as goners I may find to funny/ useful/ interesting:

Annihilator's Penis of Power
Bitch Slap
Cause Nausea
Chains of Lust
Charm Man I-IX
Coyanascotsy's Erotic Permanency
Davenet's Seduction?
Detect Venereal Disease? (a specialized Version and therefor maybe usefull)
Flash
Heartbraker
Ilruna's Impotence
Indifference
Layla’s Beautification
Layla’s Good Morning
Layla’s Morning After
Layla’s Uglification
Mount
Our Tiny Brothel
Pornographic Glamer
Prismatic Dildo? (should go to the "Hentai"-Guide?)
Seduction I-VI
Sexual Attraction
Sexual Disgust
Skank
Slap
Speedy Gestation-Variation
Summon Cissaldan
Touch of Talopea? (to powerful in Combat, I think)
Tweak/ Goose


PSIONICS
Willy’s Partial Expansion
 


Sorn

First Post
kolvar: I have virtually the same list of spells. Since the same spells show up in different people's lists, I'd say let's give them the axe. We have a copy of them in the earlier versions of the guide, so it's not like we are loosing the data should we decide to use them somewhere.

Here's my preliminary list:
Annihilator's Penis of Power
Bitch Slap
Charm Man
Conjure Succubus/ Incubus: use summon monster instead
Flash
Freudian Thoughts
Ilruna's Impotence
Indifference
Kal'Bruneyeah's Chastity Belt
Layla?s Good Morning
Layla?s Morning After
Layla?s Seductive Impersonation
Layla?s Seductive Shapechange
Layla?s Uglification
Luwain?s Everlasting Hard-On
Masturbation
Power Word, Castrate
Prismatic Dildo
Resist Self
Rut
Sacremon?s Emperor?s New Clothes
Sex Change
Slap
Strip
Tweak/ Goose
Wet Dream
 
Last edited:

Zelda Themelin

First Post
Just lists? Here is longer explanation.

Many spells are in need of rule clarification. I went a bit overboard with explanations my spells included (considering especially the fact, that my english is lacking, what also causes me to use too many words to say things that could be said simplier).

Few spells of mine in guide are actually half-finished.' Healing of Innocen't and ' Miracle of Fertility' come to mind.

Also, especially with my spells, there is constant mistake of short range spells range being 25 feet+ 5 feet/level, not +5/every second level, as it goes in PHB. This was misreading at my part long time ago. Also, my spells have sometimes name referance to 'sorcerer'. This comes form fact, that in my world some spells are only available to sorcerers of certain Path. .Linked Shapechange p.93 is a good example of this weidness. That in mind, they should be shared with divane magic users, I think.

My spells are not worse examples of this, some standardization might be in order. Durations, ranges, saves, all that.

Many old spells suffer from 'Second edition aka AD&D system backflashs. Like -4 or whatever to save, without a mention of 'what save'? Will, fort, ref?

Material component suffer now and then from same silliness, than components in phb (especially the earlier editions). I hate stupid
material components, but it's my personal bias only. I think components should make sense, that's all.

With some pleasure spells, right 'condition' referances from DMG might be in order, like 'as if shaken'. Might be usefull to be able to
compare pleasurable action-limiting condition to pain/fear action-limiting condition.

Some mentions of domains might be missing/where there shoudn't be one. Though I didn't check this one carefully. If someone did, has this been corrected?

Change Sexual Preference spells uses 2nd edition charm person spell tables. Good or bad, *shrug*

Reversed version of spell is with some spells mentioned in earlier edition style or referance is to converse/reverse version, but text
doesn't state which spell is one for that. Like with Homophobia/Heterophobia

Some spells don't do much system-wise, but they have more profaund role-play effects. Spells causing certain form of insanity fall into this category.

Annihilator's Penis of Power - Better suited to anime genre but -> I suggest we keep this, at least in some book

Bitch Slap - Stupid and offensive spell idea (latter more so, because there is no similar evil to men here)

Cause Nausea - We have brain lock in psi book, we have hold person, this does same, but as 1st level spell... be gone

Chains of Lust - Alternative method to planar binding maybe or ritual magic. I'd edit out some mmh... comments at least

Charm Man I-IX - There was once a dragon magazine with Witch npc character class. Pointless.

Coyanascotsy's Erotic Permanency - 3rd level spell, oh, please. Breaks every rule there is.

Davenet's Seduction? - Intresting, but needs rule tweaking and we do have many charms already

Detect Venereal Disease? (a specialized Version and therefor maybe usefull) - Very specific purpose, so why not, good minor magic for bordels. But int check, how hard int check?

Flash - Yep, predestication effect.

Heartbraker - Lame death magic, doesn't work in rule sense, and I'd use spell name for some other effect anyway. Good name, rest isn't

Ilruna's Impotence - Beginning idea is of some intrest. bit rules-wise it gets weird. I'd rather create curse, which causes one to be unable to experience sexual pleasure with only certain named createre. Actually have written such curse.

Indifference - Similar spell exist, right? It is also a bit confusing. Indifference? It also should be highter level.

Layla’s Beautification - too 2nd edition. I actually have written nasty, and probably overpowered spell of this one.

Layla’s Good Morning - I like this spell, sort of, it should be written to make more sense, however, there is hangover-removing spell in Relics & RItuals.

Layla’s Morning After -' Forget' spell, effectually.

Layla’s Uglification - Same problem as with Beautification.
Mount - Liked the idea, but I call my spell 'Illusionary Lover', and it is different. This one doesn't work in rule sense.

Our Tiny Brothel - I'd rather do little tweaking to regular spells, that create magical dwellings. Silly name.

Pornographic Glamer - Workable combo-spell IMO. Many designers have made combo-effect spells, it is kind of cooler and useful, than casting two different spells.

Prismatic Dildo? (should go to the "Hentai"-Guide?) - Funny, nasty, rule-tweaking needed. Hentai, yep.

Seduction I-VI - Charm with a twist. I like it, but I'd combo it to be same spell, HD affected depending on caster level.

Sexual Attraction - Limited 'stat-rising' spell (for limited situations), useful for low-level casters, I'd keep this. Change duration to 1 hour/levl.

Sexual Disgust - Limited 'stat-lowering'' spell, useful for low-level casters, I'd keep this. Change duration to 1 hour/levl.

Skank - Well, as effect why not. But name change needed, and effect itself might fit into category of 3rd level bestow curse spell. If you look at bestow curse effects carefully, you realize how devastating it can be.*

Slap - Predestication- type effect.

Speedy Gestation-Variation - Yep, too complicated and we already have one. Besides, wasn't it ME writing that one. If so, let it be GONE.

Summon Cissaldan - I've read the short story, and this spell totally fails to translate idea to actual useful spell. I've always hated it. Let it be GONE.

Touch of Talopea? (to powerful in Combat, I think) - Perhaps it should be 3rd level spell. It really is no worse than wizard casting lighting bolt at enemy mage. Then again, is it really much more powerful, than hold person?

Tweak/ Goose - Your nasty use of existing spells. Goes to predestigation category.


PSIONICS

Willy’s Partial Expansion - Well, don't know. Fantastic Four superheroes had Mr Fantastic and his rubbery body, but making body part's bigger is mostly stuff of jokes. Mostly, there is whole genre of porn deserved for this enlargening stuff.


Rest Mentiond my Isewa.

Spells
------
Embarrassing Fetish - Idea nice, rule tweaking. Needed, much. Might also work well as variation effect of some existing spell/psionic power.

Freudian Thoughts - Name change desperately needed. Too modern fantasy-Earth. Otherwise idea of spell, that curses person to think sex/food/treasure/cleaniness all the time is a very good idea. I suggest we create more general obsession spell of this.

Heterophobia/Homophobia - stupid component and all, but ideas are good. Role-play neastiness elements would work better with longer spell duration. Rule tweakin needed.

Luwain's Everlasting Hard-On (perhaps just a name change) - What's wrong with name? Rule Tweaking needed.

Masturbation - Evil spell, not silly at all. Too low level for effect, however.

PMS - Nah, it's actually very logical spell (name change needed, too 20th century). Think that female spellcaster, who wanted to teach less-than-understanding men (perhaps her huspand), about certain pain, woman has to endure.

Power Word, Castrate - Evil and usable spell, but it should have rules for damage (if any), or some other mention of psysical/psychological effect. What as spell to use on enemy army, "that takes care of those soldiers who'd otherwise trying to rape our people".

Resist Self - I wrote this spell. Yes, silly name (hah, but I like it), purposifully. Remove somatic component effect, it was kinda joke anyway. Rule tweaking needed.. did. It is actually very useful spell... to certain character of mine at least.

Strip - Bad rules. Way too powerful. There should be save.

Items
----
Castration weapons - Again, lacking actual rule what additional effect (damage etc) castaration makes, if any. Not actually silly as such... but hard to imagine how it works.

Raping weapons - Whaaaat? I can imagine dancing/raping weapon in hentai-suppliment, but this kind of raping weapon is just.... what? Change the whole effect when doing raping weapons, this won't work.

Dagger of Circumcision (debatable) - Name is misleading. Effect as now, debatable yes.

Rod of Pillows - I think this is sort of nice. But for effect +2 to sleep spell, there would have to be some other spell to this item's creation besides 'major creation'.

Rod of Vibration - Somewhat fantasy earth, but not too much so, really. Maybe little tweaking in effects needed.

Tentacular Staffs - Cool. Take them to 'hentai suppliment' however.

Phallic Wands - Hehheh, neat idea, effects might be a bit off.

Sheet of Useful Toys - Neat idea, but a bit too.. well stupid. Tweak it a little, remove 'too much 20th century' and it becomes uselful item.

Strap-On of Astounding - Cutie... but too expensive to be more than perhaps some unique creation of some bored, wealthy wizard or something. Doesn't deserve place as 'foundable magic item'.

Teeny-Weeny Bikini - Not very usable or cool effect for something costing 12 000 gp

Underwear items - Everclean underwear/clothes always comfortable clothes etc, would actually be useful. This takes it to some.. well silly direction.

Monsters
----
Recondite - This monster is not silly. It is very evil. It makes a good plot hook. Tantacled demons allergy must be some boy-thing. :D

Skirtseeker - Name change might be in order. I can well imagine some twisted demon worshipping mage to create such race. Such creatures might also be enchanted to spread magical disease and other dark things like that.

Twat Mouse - I can guess what sector of net porn inspired this one. Not very interesting or useful IMO.
Wild Oats - Quite neat mythology creature IMO, comes with dryad too.

----------

My comments

Freudian Thoughts - Name change, this is too fantasy-earth. I commented this earlier.

Lovesickness - Good example of rule-weirdness. May wear off as charm person, but may be removed with cure disease. I don't care if it's supposed to be joke.. harhar... love... being sick.. whatever. Rule correction desperately needed.

Playmate - Tanilen is very right about spell-level IMO.

Potency - A&D rule leftover warning.

Prevent Nausea - Why limit effect to women? Nausea is very common effect in many children sickness etc, so why only think pregnant women (I guess, that was the idea)? Besides there is spell 'Revulsion', nausea is nausea, after all.


Also, Tentacular staffs and such might have good home at hentai suppliment.

Also, we are lacking all those golems, that make replicas for lovers. Actually, this kind of creatures are common in mythology (if unique).


Rule tweaking needed... a lot.

*Bestow curse/cause disease spells need a lot of variation effects. I have a lot of evil wizard/necromancer/demon/witch curses in my game.

Many *I want to cause nasty change/behavior alteration* in person actually fit under effect of those spells. In role-play heavy
games socially devastating effects might be needed to be more high level spells, but since we are using PHB spells as basis.
I'd base spell level to actual game static it causes, or overall power effect can grant.

More uses (=abuses) for 'normal' spell texts might be in order.
 

Zelda Themelin

First Post
Layla?s Seductive Impersonation
Layla?s Seductive Shapechange

Well, I actually like those spells, I guess I am Layla-fan or something. ;)

Oh, and there ís never too much variations of shape alterations, especially considering what problems WotC has had actually deciding what polymorph-spells exactly are able to do.

Almost all spells in guide should are in serious need of rule-correction. Riot Gear is so right.

Also, there are great monsters from earlier editions of D&D which would fit well in our guide. Certain vampire variation comes to my mind.


Sorry about not able to edit my prior post here better.
 

Anabstercorian

First Post
On The Loss of The Family Jewels

Several spells and weapon enchantments, or simply angry dungeon masters, can lead to this state of affairs. Any character with these organs who has them destroyed must immediately make a Concentration check (DC 15) or be Nauseated for 1d4 rounds. Until the damage is repaired using a Regeneration spell, the character is rendered impotent. Simply getting hit in the balls isn't much worse than getting smacked with a 15 pound warhammer in the face or chest, so there are no special rules for called shots. Spells that inflict this trauma cause no damage unless otherwise noted.
 

Kichwas

Half-breed, still living despite WotC racism
Eromancer
Why this name? I'd think 'Tantric' or something would make more sense, as it's an actual real world specialization of the occult. I came this (.) close to joining a tantric order when I was younger after getting an invite... Might have been an interesting life if I had; albeit a strange one.


Many old spells suffer from 'Second edition aka AD&D system backflashs. Like -4 or whatever to save, without a mention of 'what save'? Will, fort, ref?

...

uses 2nd edition charm person spell tables. Good or bad
Yes this is bad. We need to make all the rules for all of the spells in the guide consistant with each other and with the d20 system.

If you look through the PHB you'll notice certain themes in certain spells. For instance all detect spells work the same way.

This guide will need to get with that program.

Teeny-Weeny Bikini - Not very usable or cool effect for something costing 12 000 gp
In the DMG there is a consistant system for determining prices on Magic Items. We should apply it throughout and were it is missing information we should add such and then apply it. I suspect the result will be much lower costs across the board.

On The Loss of The Family Jewels

Several spells and weapon enchantments, or simply angry dungeon masters, can lead to this state of affairs.
Mongoose's Quintessential Fighter has some rules for Called Shots that may come in handy here.
 

Remove ads

Top