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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 9083304" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>I'm very late to this party, but I voted no. Maybe the universe is infinite, but short of a "basically magic" breakthorugh, we are limited to the observable universe. Anything outside is unobservable, unknowable and impossible to interact with, so it doesn't matter if there are countless civilizations in a galaxy far away many universes over, it is the same as they not being there. And well, the observable universe is finite, and within it, I think we are the only ones. Even if we aren't, short of "basically magic" advancements, we'll never meet another sentient species. And that is assuming there is anybody there. I'd bet there are none. Evolution is aimless and never guaranteed to create complex life, let alone intelligent life. So TLDR: I think the Drake Equation actually amounts to 0 and we are the rounding error.</p><p></p><p>And well, belief in "we are being visited" and stuff, well it is the same belief in witches, imps and succubi, just with another coat of paint. One that is dressed in a sci-fi coat of paint, but not fundamentally different. Heck, a lot of contactees claim aliens "are extradimensional visitors" which muddies the waters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 9083304, member: 6689464"] I'm very late to this party, but I voted no. Maybe the universe is infinite, but short of a "basically magic" breakthorugh, we are limited to the observable universe. Anything outside is unobservable, unknowable and impossible to interact with, so it doesn't matter if there are countless civilizations in a galaxy far away many universes over, it is the same as they not being there. And well, the observable universe is finite, and within it, I think we are the only ones. Even if we aren't, short of "basically magic" advancements, we'll never meet another sentient species. And that is assuming there is anybody there. I'd bet there are none. Evolution is aimless and never guaranteed to create complex life, let alone intelligent life. So TLDR: I think the Drake Equation actually amounts to 0 and we are the rounding error. And well, belief in "we are being visited" and stuff, well it is the same belief in witches, imps and succubi, just with another coat of paint. One that is dressed in a sci-fi coat of paint, but not fundamentally different. Heck, a lot of contactees claim aliens "are extradimensional visitors" which muddies the waters. [/QUOTE]
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