another early entry to prestige question

[emanresu]

On other threads I have displayed an interest in the Nightmare Spinner PC. I already meet all the prerequisites except the ability to cast 3rd level spell. Im entering via Beguiler, so Im already 1 level behind in spell acquisition, so Im interested to see if there is a way to qualify for prestige class before I get a 3rd level spell slot. Would heighten spell feat or any other metamagic feat or "other" combo help?

please advise

thanks again for any and all help

Eman

 

[the Jester]

No. You need the ability to cast a third level spell; unless there's a feat or something that you can find to give you a third-level spell, you have to wait.

Early entry into prestige classes is generally very difficult because it's generally not super balanced.

 

[Jackinthegreen]

Since beguilers are spontaneous casters they qualify for Versatile Spellcaster. Add Heighten Spell and you supposedly could cast a 3rd level spell from 2 2nd level spells.

But as with any early entry cheese, you'll need to chat with your DM about it. Their BS/cheese tolerance will be the deciding factor.

 

[delericho]

Since beguilers are spontaneous casters they qualify for Versatile Spellcaster. Add Heighten Spell and you supposedly could cast a 3rd level spell from 2 2nd level spells.

Yep, that does it. You do need both feats, though - neither by itself is enough.

(One note: were I the DM in this case, I would definitely rule that Versatile Spellcaster doesn't work with the character's top-level spell slots, specifically to close this loophole. But that's not in the text as written, of course.)

But as with any early entry cheese, you'll need to chat with your DM about it. Their BS/cheese tolerance will be the deciding factor.

Yep. This too.