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Archivists' Dark Knowledge abilities- multiple bonuses from one roll?

shmoo2

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Do the Archivists' various Dark Knowledge abilities all activate with one use/skill check/move action or do they need to be activated separately?

e.g an 8th level Archivist has access to Dark Knowledge (tactics), (puissance), and (foe). She encounters a vampire and gets a 19 on her Knowledge (Religion) check. Does she grant her allies +1 to hit, +1 to saves, and +1d6 damage? Or must she pick one of these bonuses?

If the latter, I assume she can spend another move action and another daily use of Dark Knowledge to get a different bonus vs. the same creature. Correct?
 

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Zurai

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shmoo2 said:
If the latter, I assume she can spend another move action and another daily use of Dark Knowledge to get a different bonus vs. the same creature. Correct?

One Dark Knowledge per archivist per creature, period, til the end of time. It's spelled out pretty explicitly in the Dark Knowledge entry.
 

Stalker0

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Zurai said:
One Dark Knowledge per archivist per creature, period, til the end of time. It's spelled out pretty explicitly in the Dark Knowledge entry.

Per type of creature actually. So if you are fighting 4 orcs you can do a single dark knowledge that will affect each of them. But you can't do all kinds of dark knowledge with one check, you can do 2 per round since they are move actions though.
 

Zurai

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Stalker0 said:
Per type of creature actually. So if you are fighting 4 orcs you can do a single dark knowledge that will affect each of them. But you can't do all kinds of dark knowledge with one check, you can do 2 per round since they are move actions though.

No, per creature. Yes, if you do the DK that affects an entire race you affect multiple creatures, but the one creature you target to get the "and any other creatures of the same race" cannot ever be the target of one of your Dark Knowledges again.

From WotC's full online Archivist class:
Dark knowledge can only be used once against any given creature.
 


Zurai

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joshjurg said:
wouldn't it have just made more sense if wizards just added "type" after their statement ?

No, because the majority of Dark Knowledges only affect a single creature. Of the five, only Tactics affects more than one creature.

Actually, there's an even better reason. If you were barred from ever using DK on a race after one use, it'd quickly become a useless class feature. By the time you got the last ability you'd have made 95% of the creatures you encountered immune to your Dark Knowledge already,
 
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