Awaken a treant

[mypetrock]

Can you awaken a treant? It is technically a plant, so it would seem that you could cast Awaken on it.

mypetrock

 

[Mahali]

No.

Awaken
Transmutation
Level: Drd 5
Components: V, S, F, XP
Casting Time: One day
Range: Touch
Target: Animal or tree touched

A Treant is a Huge Plant not a tree.

 

[Methinkus]

Of course a treant is a plant, otherwise it couldnt be a tree. It is a type of plant commonly known as a tree. Dont get so hung up on labels, is my advice. I say go for it; it would be cool to have something like that owe the PC's a favor

 

[IanB]

A treant already can move, already has mental ability scores, already speaks several languages... and isn't a tree, so not only would casting the spell on a treant have no effect since it already has all the qualities the spell grants, it also isn't a legal target for the spell.

Why would you want to spend 250 xp and an entire day casting a spell on changing a treant's attitude to 'friendly' (-if- you make a will save), which is what the spell effect boils down to if the treant is considered a legal target?

 

[Oni]

The spell never once mentions that it affects plants, only animals and trees specifically. A treant as much as it may look like a tree is not a tree, and its descriptor is plant so it is not an animal. As it is neither of these things it is not a viable target for Awaken.

 

[Methinkus]

A treant is not a magical creature in any way. It is a plant. Specifically, it is a tree. It is a type of tree that does not exist in the real world obviously, but in the magical world of D&D, it is a “huge plant.” It says so right there in the monstrous manual just below “TREANT”

That’s right folks, a plant. Now, “plant” is in fact a broad term used in this game for classification, and can be divided into sub-categories like flower, tree, or weed. The treant is very clearly a type of tree, with trees being described as “A woody perennial plant having a single usually elongate main stem generally with few or no branches on its lower part,” by Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary. The Treant in Monstrous Manuel fits this description nicely. Its is a tree.

As such it is a legal target for the Awaken spell, which would immediately add 2hit dice and d3 charisma, and someone would have to roll 3d6 to find out its new intelligence score, which may be more or less than the standard 12.

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

As such it is a legal target for the Awaken spell, which would immediately add 2hit dice and d3 charisma, and someone would have to roll 3d6 to find out its new intelligence score, which may be more or less than the standard 12.

No. This is what happens to an animal. Reread the spell.

 

[IanB]

A treant is not a magical creature in any way. It is a plant. Specifically, it is a tree.

From the Monster Manual:

"Treants combine features of trees and humans... Treants are almost indistinguishable from trees."

As you can see - not trees. Just very close. They cannot benefit from the Awaken spell.

 

[Henry]

No offense meant, but I can't believe someone came up with this. Awaken is a spell for imbuing non-sentient creatures with sentience. A Treant is sentient already. It cannot be Awakened - it already IS awakened.

Or do all trees in D&D have that many hit dice, and a charisma score?

But, if you want to take the logistical approach...

The logic doesn't hold that a treant is a tree. The spell affects trees. A tree is a plant. A treant is a plant. But it does NOT follow that a treant is a tree.

A Goblin is a humanoid. An orc is a humanoid. But does that mean that an Orc-bane sword will do a goblin extra damage?

 

[Kae'Yoss]

No awaken on treants. Nowhere in any definition of the term "tree" I've heard there were something of "can move around" or "attacks those who hurt nature". A treant is no tree. Looking the same does not mean being the same.