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<blockquote data-quote="Ondath" data-source="post: 9075440" data-attributes="member: 7031770"><p>I agree that that scene probably doesn't resonate with people who didn't go through the experience of patriarchy. But (and I don't think you're saying this, it's just a relevant point that's been going around in my mind) I don't think the movie about the hardships of being a woman needs to keep in mind whether it'll resonate with people who are part of the group causing all of the issues it's exploring. It's a situation without a clear solution IMO: Asking a liberatory movement to police its tone or keep the feelings of its oppressors in mind is a veiled way of endorsing the existing oppressive structure, but psychologically this kind of messaging does cause people to dig in and get defensive (and I know this as someone who did dig in and become defensive towards feminists in my early teens, but saved myself from full-on misogyny kinda by luck) when they could be convinced. There's using optics to better convince people of your cause, and there's using optics as an excuse to refuse to give people equal rights. It's just hard to resolve, I dunno man.</p><p></p><p>Sorry if my message is out of line for the forum rules. It's just something I think a lot, and the movie obviously gave me a lot of food for thought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ondath, post: 9075440, member: 7031770"] I agree that that scene probably doesn't resonate with people who didn't go through the experience of patriarchy. But (and I don't think you're saying this, it's just a relevant point that's been going around in my mind) I don't think the movie about the hardships of being a woman needs to keep in mind whether it'll resonate with people who are part of the group causing all of the issues it's exploring. It's a situation without a clear solution IMO: Asking a liberatory movement to police its tone or keep the feelings of its oppressors in mind is a veiled way of endorsing the existing oppressive structure, but psychologically this kind of messaging does cause people to dig in and get defensive (and I know this as someone who did dig in and become defensive towards feminists in my early teens, but saved myself from full-on misogyny kinda by luck) when they could be convinced. There's using optics to better convince people of your cause, and there's using optics as an excuse to refuse to give people equal rights. It's just hard to resolve, I dunno man. Sorry if my message is out of line for the forum rules. It's just something I think a lot, and the movie obviously gave me a lot of food for thought. [/QUOTE]
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