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<blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6781954" data-attributes="member: 6801315"><p>I was going off of basic armors available to level 1 characters in character creation as per the PHB guidelines. If you have a DM which is allowing you to buy different starting equipment go for it <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I also missed to specify armor being as 2-3 as well since you can easily just pick up leather armor and get the full +3 dex mod or grab medium armor master as you note and get the full +3 with medium armor. However, human variants aren't always allowed.</p><p></p><p>As for shoving and grappling, the victim of the shove / grapple can choose to use Acrobatics to defend itself, so that's not really a good argument for why you should grab STR. No weakness there.</p><p></p><p>Using heavy armor is a good way to get AC at low levels. Once you get into the mid-high tiers, having heavy armor is actually not a good thing unless you dumped DEX and INT. But as noted, there's no reason to ever do that except for a 2 handed weapon build or a barbarian wanting to get the extra damage bonus from Rage + Reckless attack. </p><p></p><p>The only thing that sucks about not having STR as a primary for Shield Master is that your shoving bonus action has lower accuracy. The other benefits don't require any STR at all. Carry weight is something I've never seen a DM actually care about, but even if you did, it's your STR score x15. 10 STR gives 150 carry weight which is more than enough to carry all your weapons, armor, random gear and whatever. And if you have problems, having a horse to carry some of the burden or an ally willing to help out shouldn't be a problem.</p><p></p><p>There's always going to be a more powerful option. Crossbows have their own feat which gives very powerful bonuses, but it's also the only reason to use crossbows as a main weapon. You need the feat, it's a tax. That shouldn't be used to justify saying no to an option however just because it's good. You have to be a human variant, you have to grab a feat and you have to allow it with the DM. Multiple hoops to jump.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Noctem, post: 6781954, member: 6801315"] I was going off of basic armors available to level 1 characters in character creation as per the PHB guidelines. If you have a DM which is allowing you to buy different starting equipment go for it :) I also missed to specify armor being as 2-3 as well since you can easily just pick up leather armor and get the full +3 dex mod or grab medium armor master as you note and get the full +3 with medium armor. However, human variants aren't always allowed. As for shoving and grappling, the victim of the shove / grapple can choose to use Acrobatics to defend itself, so that's not really a good argument for why you should grab STR. No weakness there. Using heavy armor is a good way to get AC at low levels. Once you get into the mid-high tiers, having heavy armor is actually not a good thing unless you dumped DEX and INT. But as noted, there's no reason to ever do that except for a 2 handed weapon build or a barbarian wanting to get the extra damage bonus from Rage + Reckless attack. The only thing that sucks about not having STR as a primary for Shield Master is that your shoving bonus action has lower accuracy. The other benefits don't require any STR at all. Carry weight is something I've never seen a DM actually care about, but even if you did, it's your STR score x15. 10 STR gives 150 carry weight which is more than enough to carry all your weapons, armor, random gear and whatever. And if you have problems, having a horse to carry some of the burden or an ally willing to help out shouldn't be a problem. There's always going to be a more powerful option. Crossbows have their own feat which gives very powerful bonuses, but it's also the only reason to use crossbows as a main weapon. You need the feat, it's a tax. That shouldn't be used to justify saying no to an option however just because it's good. You have to be a human variant, you have to grab a feat and you have to allow it with the DM. Multiple hoops to jump. [/QUOTE]
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